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Re: Which one? [blckislandguy] by tidester HOST
Jan 04, 2007 (11:42 pm)
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Replying to: blckislandguy (Jan 04, 2007 6:12 pm)

... I suspect [it] is the case, that electrical problems are not related to mileage driven but occur randomly
 
Typically, component failures do occur at random times but are distributed. There is something called the "Mean Time Between Failures" (MTBF) which is a rough measure of when you can expect a component to fail. Because time correlates pretty well with distance driven, you will see a correlation between failure rates and distance driven as well.
 
"Distributed" means that a failure is unlikely to occur early in the lifecycle of a component but, given time, a component will almost certainly fail. In between, there is a period of maximum likelihood of failure and, yes, it can be graphed!
 
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Re: Which one? [lightwave25] by qbrozen
Jan 05, 2007 (6:31 am)
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Replying to: lightwave25 (Jan 04, 2007 2:09 pm)

Let me put it this way ... the Lincoln was a bit problematic because the headrest of my seat while driving was rubbing against the rear-facing carseat. I traded for the Accord to eliminate this (among many other reasons, of course).
 
Depending on your and/or your wife's sizes (i'm 6'5"), you may not be able to drive a compact with a rear-facing carseat at all. But, of course, also keep in mind that you've only got maybe 9 months before that seat turns around and changes everything.
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Re: Which one? [qbrozen] by smittynyc
Jan 05, 2007 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jan 05, 2007 6:31 am)

FWIW (and wildly off-topic), there is an emerging movement to keep kids rear-facing much, much longer than the current 1 yr/20 lb recommendation. The American Academy of Pediatrics now suggests keeping a kid rear-facing for as long as possible. In Europe, it's not uncommon for kids to ride backward until they're five or six, and studies show that they have far fewer child fatalities/severe injuries.
 
The reasoning for this is pretty simple -- the overwhelming majority of accidents are either frontal or side impact, and these tend to involve far greater forces than the less-frequent rear-end accidents. Front and side impacts put a ton of strain on the neck of a toddler. When riding backward, the head and neck are cushioned by the seat in such accidents.
 
Food for thought and something to consider when purchasing your vehicle. The kid may be facing rearward for much longer than a year.
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Re: Which one? [smittynyc] by qbrozen
Jan 05, 2007 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: smittynyc (Jan 05, 2007 6:56 am)

i think that's a fair point. However, its going to depend on the kid and the seat. We had to turn the seat around at 10 months (which was just a week or so ago) because he could no longer fit comfortably in the rear-facing position. He's a big kid and his legs became too long to sit that way.
 
I can't imagine kids riding backwards till they are 5 or 6 unless they have some special seat that I've never seen before.
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Re: Which one? [lightwave25] by robbieg
Jan 05, 2007 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: lightwave25 (Jan 04, 2007 12:18 pm)

Your original finds didn't get positive comments because they basically weren't reliable cars. An 8 year Saab is not a reliable car and is probably a ticking time bomb. Also, I would guess that the Saab you listed was overpriced. If you want something reliable buy something newer and not European. Toyota Corollas are cheap even if bought new (around 15K). Same goes for the Focus. However, if you want to buy a new Focus you probably could get an ST, which has the same engine as the Masda 3s, for around 15K. I realize that these are above your price range but you need to know what a new one costs in order to determine if a used one is a good deal. Basically you are left to decide if you want a one or two year old Focus or a three year old Corolla. Toyotas hold their value and are therefore usually a better buy new. Fords don't hold their value and as a result are a pretty good buy used. Also, remember that those prices are asking prices.
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Re: Which one? [robbieg] by jlawrence01
Jan 05, 2007 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: robbieg (Jan 05, 2007 7:33 am)

Also, remember that those prices are asking prices.
 
I would agree with you and add one point. On most Toyota Corollas of recent vintage, the "asking" and the "getting" price are generally pretty close. In the case of many Fords, there is more negotiating room.
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Re: Which one? [robbieg] by lightwave25
Jan 05, 2007 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: robbieg (Jan 05, 2007 7:33 am)

I think that I'm gonna go with the Nissan Sentra SE-R. It's small, fast and good looking. Plus, I have been happy with my Altima.
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Re: Which one? [lightwave25] by qbrozen
Jan 05, 2007 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: lightwave25 (Jan 05, 2007 8:09 am)

personally, i'd hold out for a specV. I know they were discounted heavily when new, so they are probably pretty cheap used.
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Re: Which one? [lightwave25] by qbrozen
Jan 05, 2007 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: lightwave25 (Jan 05, 2007 8:09 am)

FYI. I just checked and Nissan got up to $2250 off the '06s. And, according to nissan's website, there is a Bill Ray Nissan in Longwood, FL who has several '06 SERs still in stock.
 
I know its a bit more than you wanted to spend, but maybe the lower financing rates that come with a new car would help bring it close to what you wanted to pay.
 
you could be looking at ~$15k for a specV
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Re: Which one? [qbrozen] by lightwave25
Jan 05, 2007 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jan 05, 2007 8:37 am)

Awesome ... Thanks!!

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