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Re: A couple of others [plekto] by explorerx4
Nov 12, 2006 (5:28 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Nov 11, 2006 7:41 pm)

you are actually RECOMMENDING a saab v-6 turbo?
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... by plekto
Nov 12, 2006 (7:11 pm)
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The turbos in teh Saabs aren't unrelaible, or at least weren't until GM bean-counters started to get involved.
 
So get the V6 model instead if that worries you. Still a very nice car. European ride and experience at GM depreciation.
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Hmhh by british_rover
Nov 13, 2006 (6:26 am)
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I thought all automakers had to go to Plastic instead of Glass headlight lenses for safety reasons?
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... by plekto
Nov 13, 2006 (10:27 am)
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It's amazing what they tell you.
 
They can make glass into almost any shape these days, but it requires skill and considerable cost over a piece of plastic. The ~$20 difference is money they gladly squeeze out of he design. The 2002 Saab 9-5 has glass. The next year, it's plastic. The 2001(?) Volvo S40 has glass and the next year, Ford it changed to identical shaped plastic. They also got rid of the aluminum trim on the doors(area between the two windows/doors) and repaced it with same color painted plastic.
 
New cars don't impress me much anymore. Feels like it's made out of Legos. Plastic everywhere and deforms at the slightest impact.
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Re: ... [plekto] by lilengineerboy
Nov 13, 2006 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: plekto (Nov 13, 2006 10:27 am)

They are designed to deform at the slightest impact, and one of the reasons the lenses went from glass to plastic is it was too hard to get glass to meet the requirements of deforming on impact. These are influenced by new regulations to prevent fatalities/injuries in vehicle vs pedestrian collisions.
Amazingly, if one doesn't hit anything, the car doesn't crumple. If this is a real big problem for someone, they shouldn't be driving
The other reason is consumers complain when they need to replace a glass headlight after tailgating a gravel truck (but they don't complain when their plastic lenses are too yellowed to let any light pass though and they can't see...)
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Well. by british_rover
Nov 13, 2006 (3:34 pm)
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I am almost positive that for Euro spec cars they had to go to plastic lenses to meet pedestrian crash test standards.
 
If I get hit by a car I would much rather be hit with a plastic headlight then a glass one.
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Heh by plekto
Nov 13, 2006 (8:49 pm)
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Trust me - it won't make a bit of differnece
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Re: Heh [plekto] by british_rover
Nov 14, 2006 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: plekto (Nov 13, 2006 8:49 pm)

At low speed it will. You have to remember how different European cities are. There are many more chances to have low speed encounters with pedestrians.
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good deal by flc2006
Nov 15, 2006 (8:05 am)
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The best used cars for price are korean car that are about 3 years old
 
if you are looking for reliability stay with honda or toyota.
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Re: good deal [flc2006] by lilengineerboy
Nov 15, 2006 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: flc2006 (Nov 15, 2006 8:05 am)

If my lone criteria was dollars spent I think your suggestion would be great. I am looking for something more exciting than a box of rocks which is why I am looking at more entertaining used vehicles.

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