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Re: Hard to believe [holew] by kipk
Apr 22, 2008 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: holew (Apr 21, 2008 11:50 am)

>"If the gas CR-V is getting 27 MPG on the highway (which it might) then it is reasonable to expect the diesel to get about 37 MPG (the MD E320 diesel is rates at and gets for real 37MPG). That is a 37% increase in MPG with the diesel only costing about 20 to 25% more. "
 
On the Our 03 CR-V, 4WD, 4speed automatic generally gets 29-30 mpg with the cruise set at 2500 RPM. (68 mph). I would certainly think the newer 5 speeds would get at least that. To get 37% higher the diesel would have to get in the 40MPG range.
 
Civic and Corolla owners consistently report 40+ mpg on the road when driven 65-70 MPH. For a diesel to break even at 25% increased fuel cost. A diesel Civic would have to get 50+mpg just to break even on the fuel cost alone. Then the initial buying cost and maintenance figure in also.
 
There are also other things to consider along with the extra initial cost, maintenance and so forth. Diesel cars are having a hard time meeting the EPA requirements and there may be extra expense there also. Don't know what VW is doing right now, but they stopped their diesel sales here, a couple of years ago. Could be they are selling once again, but maybe not!
 
One thing you can count on. If/when diesel cars become more popular, the demand will go up for the fuel, and probably so will prices.
 
Here are some quotes from Edmunds when comparing the Tahoe Hybred to the E320 diesel: "But these vehicles are more reasonable when you consider that the four-wheel-drive 2008 Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid earns an EPA rating of 20 mpg city/20 mpg highway, and the all-wheel-drive 2008 Mercedes-Benz GL320 CDI rates 18 mpg city/24 mpg highway. This works out to a combined rating of 20 mpg for both SUVs — a big achievement for a full-size sport-utility."......."Still, these measures are only good enough to certify the Benz for sale in 42 U.S. states."......."We drive at a 70-mph pace on a 130-mile loop from the coastal plain in Santa Monica to the 3,500-foot pass at the crest of the Tehachapi mountains and back, and the Tahoe averages 21.9 mpg"......."And with its combined fuel-economy average of 23.9 mpg offering a substantial margin over the Tahoe's 20.9 mpg, the Benz easily wins our fuel-economy test, too"...."Of course a comparison of fuel prices equalizes the game a little. During this test, we pay $3.579 per gallon for the Chevy's 87-octane gas, while the Benz's diesel costs us $4.179 per gallon. But because of the GL320's lower fuel consumption, we actually spent only a dollar more overall to fill its tank at the end of our test."
 
http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=125645/pageNumber=1
 
This is an interesting article. Their test involved gas at $3.57 and diesel at $4.17. And fuel, for the test, cost about the same for boyh cars. In our area Gas is $3.45 and diesel is $4.25. So the diesel would cost more to fuel here. Still, not enough difference to make a difference. However, what will the extra cost involve to be able to drive the E320 in all 50 states? So we do need to consider other costs.
 
I personally would not be the first kid on the block with a diesel Honda or anything else. There will be bugs to work out and prices to settle down.
 
Kip
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Re: Hard to believe [holew] by kipk
Apr 22, 2008 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: holew (Apr 21, 2008 11:50 am)

>" (the MD E320 diesel is rates at and gets for real 37MPG). "
 
I can't verify your figures. Where did they come from?
 
Thanks,
Kip
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2008 CRV EX-L by kevman3
Apr 23, 2008 (9:36 am)
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Just got a 2008 CRV EX-L. Seem to be getting about 24MPG on commute from NJ to NYC. Alot of the driving is fast (75-80) to stay with traffic. Do you think it wll go up after it breaks in, when I change to synthetic oil, etc? Hoping for 26-27.
 
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Re: 2008 CRV EX-L [kevman3] by ecarfar
Apr 23, 2008 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: kevman3 (Apr 23, 2008 9:36 am)

I have a new EX-L also, I've filled it up twice after the dealer's initial fillup. I drive 30 miles back and forth to the train station on Long Island, about 90% highway driving. The first fillup I got about 27 mpg and the second about 28.5. The indicated mpg is about .4 mpg higher than actual. All-in-all I'm VERY pleased with the mileage. I only have about 1100 miles on it now and expect the mileage to get somewhat higher as I approach 10K miles and make the switch to synthetic at 4K.
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Re: 2008 CRV EX-L [kevman3] by kipk
Apr 24, 2008 (2:44 am)
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Replying to: kevman3 (Apr 23, 2008 9:36 am)

>"Just got a 2008 CRV EX-L. Seem to be getting about 24MPG on commute from NJ to NYC. Alot of the driving is fast (75-80) to stay with traffic. Do you think it wll go up after it breaks in, when I change to synthetic oil, etc? Hoping for 26-27."
 
The CR-V is pushing a lot of air at 80 mph. You might try running 70 as a max speed and be gentle with the throttle.
 
What is the non freeway traffic like?
 
FWIW: Our CR-V gets around 24 at 80, 27 at 70 and near 30 at 65.
 
Kip
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2008 EX-L Mileage by kevman3
Apr 24, 2008 (6:58 am)
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2nd fillup got 25 mpg. Really held back this morning, to around 70 mph, and the display says I did about 27.5, which is great. Tough goin 70 when most are goin 80+ during the early rush hour headed to NYC. But was great to see the improvement. When it breaks in, maybe I'll do even better. Love the car, and the power that i read about being too weak is just fine. More power than the Civic i traded in.
 
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Re: 2008 EX-L Mileage [kevman3] by kipk
Apr 25, 2008 (3:52 am)
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Replying to: kevman3 (Apr 24, 2008 6:58 am)

>"Tough goin 70 when most are goin 80+ during the early rush hour headed to NYC. But was great to see the improvement. "
 
Congratulations! You got a good one!
 
Going from ( original) 24 to 27.5 mpg is about a 15% increase in mileage. Not bad at all ! !
 
Looking at it another way. Say gas is $3.50 per gallon. And you are driving 70 at 27.5 mpg. At 80 and 24 mpg, you are "Effectively" paying 15% more to drive the same distance, OR $4.02 per gallon.
 
Even more could be saved at 65 mpg. Your increased mpg at 70 vs 80 is about the same as my CR-V. So, no reason to think you might not get that 30+ mpg at 60-65 mph.
 
A 30 mile drive at 70 mph will take about 25.5 minutes. At 80 mph it will take about 22.7 minutes. I personally would not care to spend "effectively" $4.02 per gallon for gas, to save 3 minutes. Something else to consider is the possibility of getting a ticket when driving 80. How much would that cost for the ticket and possibly increased insurance premiums add to the cost of driving?
 
Wouldn't it be nice to be able to save 15% on the cost of everything? House note, car note, food, healthcare, insurance, etc.. If we earn 15% more, the IRS gets a piece of it. If we save 15%, the savings are ours to keep.
 
How about this. Let's say you paid $22k for your CR-V. Would it have been worth spending 3 additional minutes to save 15% more? In that case you would have paid $18,700 instead of $22,000.
 
Of course we can't save 15% on everything, but we can certainly save a bunch, if we simply slow down a bit.
 
While I'm not stupid enough to to be a hazard and drive 50 in a 70 zone, while most are driving 80, it bothers me NOT to drive 65 to 70. I get in the RH lane and let them do battle in the rest.
 
Kip
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Re: New 2008 CR-V 4WD EX MPG report [palmhbr] by fallenangelny
May 06, 2008 (6:13 pm)
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Replying to: palmhbr (Jan 16, 2008 7:03 am)

I'm looking for '08 CRV now. Being an owner of '03 CRV model for two years. For a new body '08 model sticker says city 20 miles per gallon, highway - 25. How you guys getting 30 miles ? Are you talking about 4x4 version ?
In addition, my old Honda was assembled in Japan having 100% Japanese parts. Model '08 has assembled in Ohio having engine made in USA. That is only two points now stopping me to trade in my Toyota RAV4, 2004 ( 100% Japanese car).

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