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#676 of 786 Re: Honda CRV Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [kyfdx] by pabbo Mar 25, 2008 (11:55 am)
Replying to: kyfdx (Mar 22, 2008 6:31 am) Curious- how did they chamge EPA? did they lower numbers to make them make them more realisitic?
#677 of 786 Re: 2009 or beyond [pabbo] by steve_ HOST Mar 25, 2008 (11:57 am)
Replying to: pabbo (Mar 25, 2008 11:53 am) The Future Hybrids Which Model Will Be Next? discussion would be one place to ask.   And check out the MPG Ratings Will Drop Under EPA Proposal discussion for EPA info.
#678 of 786 Re: 14.5 mpg in SF [acarperson] by natenj1971 Mar 27, 2008 (7:05 pm)
Replying to: acarperson (Mar 09, 2008 10:43 am) I'm lucky if I get 24 on the highway. Usually get 18-20 in town driving - lots of stop and go. But, only have 1000 miles, and the roads are far from smooth around here so I'm hoping the numbers improve over time.   2008 EXL Navi CRV Black on Black Replies to this message: rsm333 (Mar 28, 2008 10:26 am)
#679 of 786 Re: 14.5 mpg in SF [natenj1971] by rsm333 Mar 28, 2008 (10:26 am)
Replying to: natenj1971 (Mar 27, 2008 7:05 pm) My 2007 EX-L 2WD (16K miles), typically averages 28mpg on the 252 mile trip from Humboldt County to San Francisco. This first 150 miles is mountainous, and my mileage is in the 26mpg range. Once out of the mountains, it’s getting 30+… this is at 70 mph. In local driving (there is no city driving here) I get 24-25.
#680 of 786 Test drive MPG by cravenfan Mar 29, 2008 (4:36 pm)
I tested a CRV a week or so ago, reset the mpg and drove home, 1/2 highway, 1/2 back roads, a few lights and stop signs and got about 24.5mpg. Picking a new one up tomorrow, so I'll check it out over the next few weeks.
#681 of 786 Re: Hard to believe [stevedebi] by holew Apr 21, 2008 (11:50 am)
Replying to: stevedebi (Feb 29, 2008 11:25 am) In making the decision on buying a diesel vs gasoline powered vehicle one must consider not only the price of the diesel fuel but also the higher fuel milage the diesel will get. For the most part diesel is about 20 to 25% higher then regular gasoline currently (21 April 2008). But if the diesel provides 30 to 40% increase in MPG then the diesel is the way to go.   If the gas CR-V is getting 27 MPG on the highway (which it might) then it is reasonable to expect the diesel to get about 37 MPG (the MD E320 diesel is rates at and gets for real 37MPG). That is a 37% increase in MPG with the diesel only costing about 20 to 25% more. Replies to this message: ecarfar (Apr 21, 2008 12:00 pm) harvey44 (Jun 29, 2008 1:08 pm) kipk (Apr 22, 2008 6:54 am) kipk (Apr 22, 2008 7:14 am)
#682 of 786 Re: Hard to believe [holew] by ecarfar Apr 21, 2008 (12:00 pm)
Replying to: holew (Apr 21, 2008 11:50 am) That's very true, but a lot of us who remember the 70's can't forget what happened. As gas prices rose, diesel fuel was about half as much as regular gasoline. Car makers started producing diesel engine cars more and more to capitalize on the increasing market. All of a sudden, diesel pulled even with gas prices and then went higher....don't know why, maybe due to the increased demand, supply fell and prices went up or maybe retailers saw a way to make a profit. Either way the result was that you couldn't give away a diesel car. My buddy had a mid 80's VW diesel Rabbit and he wanted to get rid of it in 1990 and called "car cash" and the guy on the other end of the phone, in his best Brooklyn accent said "it's woitless" (worthless).   Not saying that's going to happen here, but a lot of us have been bitten before. Replies to this message: harvey44 (Jun 29, 2008 1:08 pm)
#683 of 786 Re: '05 CR-V mileage [bobby12] by tennisod Apr 22, 2008 (2:59 am)
Replying to: bobby12 (Feb 08, 2008 10:10 pm) Hi, I am glad I read your message. I totally support you in getting terrible mileage. I get 13-14mpg in the city. That is my usual mpg that drives me crazy. I took my CRV SE 2005 to several dealerships and they said that is nothing wrong with my car, they just didn't care about this problem. I have seen several people having SE model having problems with MPG as well. Thanks, Peter
#685 of 786 Re: Hard to believe [holew] by kipk Apr 22, 2008 (6:54 am)
Replying to: holew (Apr 21, 2008 11:50 am) >"If the gas CR-V is getting 27 MPG on the highway (which it might) then it is reasonable to expect the diesel to get about 37 MPG (the MD E320 diesel is rates at and gets for real 37MPG). That is a 37% increase in MPG with the diesel only costing about 20 to 25% more. "   On the Our 03 CR-V, 4WD, 4speed automatic generally gets 29-30 mpg with the cruise set at 2500 RPM. (68 mph). I would certainly think the newer 5 speeds would get at least that. To get 37% higher the diesel would have to get in the 40MPG range.   Civic and Corolla owners consistently report 40+ mpg on the road when driven 65-70 MPH. For a diesel to break even at 25% increased fuel cost. A diesel Civic would have to get 50+mpg just to break even on the fuel cost alone. Then the initial buying cost and maintenance figure in also.   There are also other things to consider along with the extra initial cost, maintenance and so forth. Diesel cars are having a hard time meeting the EPA requirements and there may be extra expense there also. Don't know what VW is doing right now, but they stopped their diesel sales here, a couple of years ago. Could be they are selling once again, but maybe not!   One thing you can count on. If/when diesel cars become more popular, the demand will go up for the fuel, and probably so will prices.   Here are some quotes from Edmunds when comparing the Tahoe Hybred to the E320 diesel: "But these vehicles are more reasonable when you consider that the four-wheel-drive 2008 Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid earns an EPA rating of 20 mpg city/20 mpg highway, and the all-wheel-drive 2008 Mercedes-Benz GL320 CDI rates 18 mpg city/24 mpg highway. This works out to a combined rating of 20 mpg for both SUVs — a big achievement for a full-size sport-utility."......."Still, these measures are only good enough to certify the Benz for sale in 42 U.S. states."......."We drive at a 70-mph pace on a 130-mile loop from the coastal plain in Santa Monica to the 3,500-foot pass at the crest of the Tehachapi mountains and back, and the Tahoe averages 21.9 mpg"......."And with its combined fuel-economy average of 23.9 mpg offering a substantial margin over the Tahoe's 20.9 mpg, the Benz easily wins our fuel-economy test, too"...."Of course a comparison of fuel prices equalizes the game a little. During this test, we pay $3.579 per gallon for the Chevy's 87-octane gas, while the Benz's diesel costs us $4.179 per gallon. But because of the GL320's lower fuel consumption, we actually spent only a dollar more overall to fill its tank at the end of our test."   http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=125645/pageNumber=1   This is an interesting article. Their test involved gas at $3.57 and diesel at $4.17. And fuel, for the test, cost about the same for boyh cars. In our area Gas is $3.45 and diesel is $4.25. So the diesel would cost more to fuel here. Still, not enough difference to make a difference. However, what will the extra cost involve to be able to drive the E320 in all 50 states? So we do need to consider other costs.   I personally would not be the first kid on the block with a diesel Honda or anything else. There will be bugs to work out and prices to settle down.   Kip

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