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Re: Old Habits are hard to Break! [harvey44] by kipk
Jun 28, 2006 (4:23 am)
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Replying to: harvey44 (Jun 27, 2006 10:49 am)

Sometimes I wonder if changing the oil so frequently makes sense from a cost standpoint
 
That is a good question and I have wondered the same thing many times.
 
In or about 1985 I bought a 1978 Chevy Beauville G20 long van with 350 V8. There were about 98K on the odometer. Oil was pretty dark and it was leaking or blowing a lot of oil. I knew the engine was in trouble but everything else was nice and worked. So I bought it because I knew I was going to do some modifications to the engine for the purposes of towing a 30ft camper for our family
 
As it turned out, most everything inside the engine was worn out. About the only thing useable were the block, the head cores, and piston rods.
 
 It did a lot of towing for a few years and is now basically used for trips to Home Depot, storage and anything else a large box on wheels is good for. The valve covers leak as well as the rear seal (Chevy trademark). The engine is as quiet as the day we rebuilt it and it doesn't smoke at all. The oil is still changed every 5K or once a year these days.
 
2003 was the last year it had to be inspected, but even then it always passed with half or less than half of the allowable numbers. This engine has about 100k on it now. I don't believe that we built the engine any better than it was when new. I sincerely believe that reasonably regular oil changes made the difference.
 
With todays high revving engines with their tight tolerances, I believe regular oil changes are a good idea. I do it every 3750 miles because of the extended warranties and I don't want Honda to say we neglected anything should there be a problem. However, when the warranties are over It will be every 5000 miles.
 
Kip
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Re: Old Habits are hard to Break! [harvey44] by steve_ HOST
Jun 28, 2006 (7:18 am)
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Replying to: harvey44 (Jun 27, 2006 10:49 am)

I gave up on short interval oil changes too Harvey44. The manual for my minivan recommends a 7,500 mile interval. See the Engine Oil - A slippery subject Part 2 discussion for more on the oil wars.
 
Anyone else checked their gas mileage lately?
 
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Re: Old Habits are hard to Break! [steve_] by johnny19
Jul 04, 2006 (4:48 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 28, 2006 7:18 am)

Just got a new 2006 CRV 2WD LX with automatic.
 
Got 30.15 miles per gallon on first long trip with about 1000 miles on the odometer; 350 mile trip with A/C on half the time; 68-70 mph with cruise control. Filled up before and after trip at the same pump.
 
I'm impressed! My 1997 Honda Civic only gets 35-36 mpg. The CRV is almost as good!
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Re: Old Habits are hard to Break! [johnny19] by vipingupta
Jul 05, 2006 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: johnny19 (Jul 04, 2006 4:48 pm)

I hope your CRV was out of break-in period, as Honda suggestes not to use Cruise control during break-in period.
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Re: Old Habits are hard to Break! [vipingupta] by kipk
Jul 06, 2006 (3:40 am)
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Replying to: vipingupta (Jul 05, 2006 11:45 am)

When driving in "HILLY" areas, the Cruise control tends to cause a little more shifting of the tranny to maintain that exact speed. Of course the result is varying engine rpm which is good for the engine break-in
 
On relatively flat roads the Cruse control will tend to keep the engine at a constant rpm. This is Not good for break-in.
Kip
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Re: Old Habits are hard to Break! [kipk] by johnny19
Jul 08, 2006 (5:34 am)
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Replying to: kipk (Jul 06, 2006 3:40 am)

Good point. I hadn't thought of that, but the hilly terrain on the interstates/turnpike caused some 5th to 4th downshifts going up hills. Not good for gas mileage, but that apparently didn't suffer too much.
 
Have you heard of anyone else getting 30+ on a trip? I drive easy, but 70 mph with A/C on half the time isn't 'easy' for gas mileage.
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Re: Old Habits are hard to Break! [johnny19] by kipk
Jul 09, 2006 (3:51 am)
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Replying to: johnny19 (Jul 08, 2006 5:34 am)

Last trip we took in the '03 CR-V 4WD with 4 speed auto yielded slightly over 30 mpg for the trip.
 
That was with the cruise set at 2500 RPM which was about 67 mph. We ran the air about 1/3 the time. North Georgia X-ways seem to be either up hill or down. Very little flat ground.
 
If we had used the AC more, the mileage would have probably suffered more. The 4 cylinder pulling the CR-V's weight and shape is starting to "PUFF" when A/C and hills are added to the mix along with 67 mph wind resistance.IT most always shifted back to 3rd on the longer hills.
 
We filled up that morning and again that evening when we got back, at the same pump. Round trip about 200 miles.
 
This is not really a good measurement. The gas tank may have been cooler on the first fill up. Therefore it would have held a little more gas when compared to the second fill up due to the tank being warmer from outside air temperature plus heat from the road. The warmer tank could have caused the gas to expand some which would have "filled" the tank with a little less actual gas on a quick fill up. Or, I may have CRAMMED a little more into the tank on either of the fill ups.
 
On a 200 mile trip, 6.6 gal would be 30.3 mpg. Adding or subtracting just .4 gallons could yield 2 MPG more or less.
 
If you want to "Record" the best mileage, fill the tank with the front of the car lower than the rear. Even better if the right front is even lower than the left. That will set the tank at an angle to let most of the air bubble out the filler tube. Do it on a cool morning so the gas is contacted more than it will be later.
 
Then on the "Check the Mileage" fill up have the front end higher than the rear with the left rear at the lowest point. This will allow the air pocket to be far from the filler tube and hard to get rid of. Therefore the tank simply will not take as much gas. Do this during the hot time of the day, when the air and road have heated the tank, and the gas is already expanded slightly.
 
 Those two conditions will yield a better average than usual. However the needle will fall off the "Full" mark quicker and the next fill up on flat ground will be disappointing!
 
Kip
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Re: Old Habits are hard to Break! [kipk] by tidester HOST
Jul 09, 2006 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: kipk (Jul 09, 2006 3:51 am)

This is not really a good measurement. The gas tank may have been cooler on the first fill up.
 
Thermal expansion of the tank isn't really an issue. What you should be focussing on is the volume of gasoline you put into the tank and you get that information from the display at the pump. Of course, the gasoline itself is subject to thermal expansion but most gas station tanks are underground meaning there will be very little variation at a given station.
 
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Over 30 here by stevedebi
Jul 10, 2006 (12:33 pm)
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"Have you heard of anyone else getting 30+ on a trip?"
 
I took a trip in NM at high altitudes (5000 ft +). About 2/3 of the trip was at 60 MPH, the remainder was on the interstate at 80 MPH (getting back from Colorado, don't ask how I managed to get that far north ). It was a total of about 360 miles. MPG was 31.1 as I recall. I should mention that I filled up at the same station before and after the trip, and that I used 88 octane (medium grade) because NM sells 86 octane as regular fuel - and the manual calls for a minimum of 87.
 
My normal highway MPG was between 25 and 27 77 MPH. I got around 20-21 in town. But the 2003 had only the 4 speed transmission.

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