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Nissan Murano, Toyota Highlander, Subaru B9 Tribeca, Honda Pilot, Acura MDX, Volkswagen Touareg, SUV
#526 of 800 Re: Pilot vs. Ridgeline vs. CPO RX 330 [sooner_chot]
May 16, 2006 (11:07 am)
The CX-7 shares its powerplant with the Mazdaspeed 6, so its most crucial part is not all-new. It requires premium fuel. If your driving habits are average, premium will increase your fuel bill by only about $250/year. Check out the CX-7 forums here on Edmunds to see how owners have felt about their vehicles, see if there are any recurring problems.
I'd be a little more wary of the RDX/CRV, since Edmunds says it's Honda's first production turbo engine. You know Honda's got great reliability, but it'd still be a risk. I assume it'll require premium like other turbos.
You didn't mention it in your first post, but have you checked out a Subaru B9 Tribeca? A little pricey, but you can get a very nice 5-pass in the upper $20k range. Extremely safe and reliable with a strong 3.0 6-cyl which doesn't require premium, plus one of the best AWD systems out there. That engine has been in use in top-of-the-line Outbacks for a while, and has proven itself. Edmunds called the handling soft, but I think most would disagree with that assessment. The people who own them seem to really like them - they're rated a 9.0 out of 10 in Edmunds' Consumer Ratings. 2007s have some nice little improvements over '06, and should be out very soon.
#527 of 800 Re: Pilot vs. Ridgeline vs. CPO RX 330 [jeffmc]
May 16, 2006 (11:29 am)
RDX will very likely require premium. Heck, even the X3 does, without forced induction.
#528 of 800 What about RAV4?
May 17, 2006 (5:50 am)
I don't think anyone has mentioned it but what about the new RAV4? You can get one with the FAST V6, handles well with AWD in the mid 20s and Toyota has great reliability. If I didn't need the room of the Pilot, I would probably have gone with a RAV4 and saved some money over the Tribeca/Murano.
#529 of 800 Re: What about RAV4? [01mdx]
May 17, 2006 (5:59 am)
I would not say "FAST" and "mid 20s" in the same breath. Some of the car mags averaged 16mpg.
Drive it fast and it will guzzle gas.
Drive it slowly and you will likely get mid 20s.
But not both, no way no how.
Out in the real world, roughly half of RAV4 V6 owners have reported mileage below 20 mpg. 20 is about the median, you could say.
#530 of 800 Re: What about RAV4? [ateixeira]
May 17, 2006 (6:02 am)
would not say "FAST" and "mid 20s" in the same breath. Some of the car mags averaged 16mpg.
I think the reference of "mid 20s" was to the price???
#531 of 800 Re: What about RAV4? [samiam_68]
May 17, 2006 (6:07 am)
Cough, uh, yeah, of course he did!
May 17, 2006 (7:21 am)
Doesn't the Rav4 have a part time AWD system? An On Demand system with a viscous center diff?
#533 of 800 Re: What about RAV4? [01mdx]
May 17, 2006 (8:51 am)
I looked at the RAV4. It certainly has it's plusses. The size is great, not too big, not too small. The v6 seems like an incredible engine. 269hp from 3.5L would make it fast. And i've read many posts where users of the V6 are getting low 20's for fuel economy. So that's pretty impressive.
On the down side, I couldn't live with the interior. both from a style, fit and finish, materials point of view. It just says 'cheap car' all over it. Compare that to, let's say, a Tribeca dash (and features)- what a difference.
I think the Rav4 is a great "inexpensive small 'ute" that's got power and size. But it just doesn't compete with the Tribeca/Murano and plain looking Highlander.
#534 of 800 Re: RAV4 AWD [pschreck]
May 17, 2006 (9:25 am)
It's a bit confusing, because previous models had full time AWD with the viscous couplings, but now they use an on-demand clutch based system that is part-time.
#535 of 800 Re: What about RAV4? [morey000]
May 17, 2006 (12:18 pm)
Yes, I agree but someone above mentioned a CRV above so I thought I would throw it out there. If I didn't need the extra room, I might have gone for the RAV4 V6 Limited with leather. It's not luxurious, but it's pretty sporty.
If people are looking more luxurious, I would also consider the RDX and the MDX. I am very happy with my MDX even though it's 5 years old. Probably doesn't handle quite as good as a Tribeca, but probably close, has more room and is a pretty good choice.