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Re: I think people get confused [sigsis72]
by tallman1
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Sep 30, 2009 (2:19 pm)
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Replying to: sigsis72 (Sep 30, 2009 2:12 pm)
Gas peddle on the right, brake peddle on the left.
Actually, the brake pedal is in the middle... the clutch pedal is on the left. 
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Re: I think people get confused [tallman1]
by tankbeans
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Sep 30, 2009 (2:44 pm)
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Replying to: tallman1 (Sep 30, 2009 2:19 pm)
If we want to get really technical gas on the right, brake AND clutch in the middle, dead pedal on the left. 
I wish there was an avoid dumb people pedal so that you could fly over most of the drivers on the road thereby getting excellent mileage.
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by dudleyr
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Oct 27, 2009 (6:23 am)
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Wow nearly a month with nothing. Time for some current numbers.
Been testing my range lately and set a personal record with 665.5 miles on one tank. This was over 3 days of mostly highway driving with taking kids to school in the morning and going to work thrown in. Used 16.23 gallons for 41.0 mpg - 41.5 on the scanguage. The needle was completely below the red line and I still had a gallon left. I drove about 85 or 90 miles after the light came on.
Lifetime mpg is now at 34.46 (up from 33.4 in the spring)
10 tank average is at 37.6
50 tank average (somewhere around a year of driving) is at 35.9
Car now has 73,000 miles in 2.5 years.
mpg is still going up overall. I expect to be at 35 mpg lifetime by this time next year.
2007 I4 SE MT
Just as an aside. If I was driving a midsize V-6 suv and averaging 17.5 mpg I would have used an additional 2,100 gallons of gas over the same period. At about $2.80 per gallon average over that time that is about $5,900 in savings, or just under $200 per month saved in gasoline alone.
It is just beyond me why some people choose the vehicles they drive. We should be happy with our Accords.
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Re: - [dudleyr]
by marvin6
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Oct 27, 2009 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: dudleyr (Oct 27, 2009 6:23 am)
Different people have different accord stories. In less than 100k miles, my accord has had three (3) rebuilt transmissions put in it and one motor mount. I'm in my 50s and have owned quite a few cars and this accord is the only car I've ever had a transmission or motor mount put in. I drive like an old lady - for mileage - and my 4 cyl auto gets about 24 in town and 28 on the road. It's underpowered on the hills and shifts constantly. Cruise control serves no purpose. With cruise on hills my car tacks 4400 rpm at 70 mph. Without cruise I can pull hills without a lot of shifting by anticipating them. The road noise leaves a lot to be desired and the wind from the A pillars (both sides) is quite a bother (haven't been able to get it stopped). I still drive it, but would not consider buying another. My experiences with honda are perhaps one reason some people don't drive accords.
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Re: - [marvin6]
by dpmeersman
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Oct 27, 2009 (8:18 am)
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Replying to: marvin6 (Oct 27, 2009 8:09 am)
What year and model Accord are you driving?
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Re: - [dpmeersman]
by marvin6
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Oct 27, 2009 (8:36 am)
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Replying to: dpmeersman (Oct 27, 2009 8:18 am)
Our honda is a 2000 LX. Bought it new and is garage kept. Synthetic fluids and early maintenance (oil, fluid flushes, plugs, etc all done early). We don't hate the car, but just not impressed.
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Re: - [dpmeersman]
by marvin6
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Oct 27, 2009 (10:16 am)
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Replying to: dpmeersman (Oct 27, 2009 8:18 am)
We bought the 2000 accord with the intent of keeping it 10 years. It's time for a new one. I shopped around this year and considered several cars. I drove a friends 2008 v6 accord and although I probably wouldnt have considered another honda, the constant on/off of the VCM felt like the ac coming on all the time would not be fun. (On a 1300 mile trip we did average about 28mpg on his v6.) I thought the camry was unattractive and ruled it out. I went to test drive a hyundai genesis and the guy didn't have the time of day for me. My wife and I retired early and do volunteer work and I guess wearing old clothes when I went to the dealership gave him the idea I couldn't afford the genesis. So I just put off buying a car for awhile. I plan on considering the new sonata (if a v6 is offered) or may consider a v6 genesis from another dealer.
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by dudleyr
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Oct 27, 2009 (5:31 pm)
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Why consider a V-6 now if you are dissapointed with the mpg of an I-4. Keep in mind that all of the 4 cyl versions of the cars you are looking at are much faster than your 2000 Accord. Also the 2000 Accord happens to be the least fuel efficient of any Accord year (actually the first three years of that generation). The most fuel efficient are the 2006-7 years.
Right now the leaders for mpg are probably the Camry with 32 mpg highway with the 4 cyl. and the Sonata and Altima. Honestly I don't even consider looks, but I think the Camry looks fine - better than the current Accord. The Sonata and Altima also are not so bad, but the Altima has absolutely no rear headroom with the super slanted roof.
I would drive a 4 cyl before ruling them out completely.
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Re: - [dudleyr]
by marvin6
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Oct 27, 2009 (5:55 pm)
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Replying to: dudleyr (Oct 27, 2009 5:31 pm)
Although disappointed in the mileage on our 4 cyl, that's not my major issue. It's been the transmissions and the noise. I read this site daily and don't comment much, but had to when someone couldn't understand why everyone didn't want an accord. I don't care much about the gas mileage, but track it primarily because if there is a change in mileage it's an indicator of a problem. I've rented a few 4 cylinders and think I'd prefer the 6 cyl. My wife told me to pick whatever I wanted with a few provisions. No honda, no 4 cylinder, must have ipod capability, must be an automatic, and if it is over $40k she wants to see and drive it before I buy it. Other than that she doesn't care as it's just a car. I'm in no hurry and when I see what I want I'll just buy it. I went to the hyundai dealer with a friend and probably would have brought the genesis home with me if I'd have had a good experience at the dealership. I believe the best relations you'll ever find at a dealership are usually at the sales floor and if this was the best they had to offer I wasn't interested in returning for any other reason. Of note, when I drove the 6 cyl accord was the fantastic styling and awesome interior. First class! But it still had the hard ride (perhaps from the hard michelin tires - I got rid of mine early and put yokohamas on) and I could already hear the noise on the a-pillar. Perhaps honda could use a thicker gasket on the door to take care of this or something. I didn't like the constant in and out of the VCM mode either. Additionally, if you read these sites you'll see honda has some issues - VCM, brakes, oil consumption once the v6 gets some miles on it, and steering issues. I'm not sure if they've lost their edge or if other manufacturers have just caught up.
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01 Accord
by kevman3
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Oct 28, 2009 (5:34 am)
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My 01 4 cylinder 5-speed manual gets 33MPG hwy every tank driving into NYC from NJ. I love getting over 500 miles per tank, and filling it up with about 16 gallons. Its not fast, but it isn't slow either.
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