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Re: Almost 500 miles [dpmeersman] by thegraduate
Aug 15, 2008 (7:49 am)
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Replying to: dpmeersman (Aug 15, 2008 7:34 am)

Too many Dr. Seuss books for me I guess...
 
I didn't even realize I'd done it.
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Scangauge Dialed In by guitar4him
Aug 15, 2008 (11:26 am)
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Today, I finally got to do the fillup that allows me to calibrate my Scangauge. Here's the info:
 
2008 Accord LX Sedan I4 (177hp), AT with just over 3,000 total miles.
 
I filled up at the same pump as before and filled until I couldn't put any more gas in without spilling over. There were 463 miles on this tank when I pulled into the station, and the SG read 31.7 mpg on this tank. I put 15.8 gallons in which yields 29.3 mpg by the calculator. When I did the fillup screen on the SG, it believed that the fuel used was 14.7 gallons. I tweaked the fuel used figure up to 15.8 and this indicated a 7.4% correction factor. If you apply the 7.4% correction factor to the indicated 31.7 mpg on this tank, it corrects to 29.35 mpg....wow....that's within 0.05 mpg. I believe I've got it dialed in.
 
BTW....this tank was about 80/20 Hwy/City and I paid $3.51 per gallon for the gas. Overall, I'm pretty pleased with the gas mileage so far. It's going to be interesting to see how it does when it has 10K miles on it.
    
Ken
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Re: Scangauge Dialed In [guitar4him] by thegraduate
Aug 15, 2008 (11:31 am)
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Replying to: guitar4him (Aug 15, 2008 11:26 am)

Please don't top off your tank to the tip top (as you say you did). I wouldn't want you to damage your new car!
 
From the EPA:
 
You need extra room in your gas tank to allow the gasoline to expand. If you top off your tank, the extra gas may evaporate into your vehicle’s vapor collection system. That system may become fouled and will not work properly causing your vehicle to run poorly and have high gas emissions. Also, Topping off the gas tank can result in your paying for gasoline that is fed back into the station's tanks because your gas tank is full. The gas nozzle automatically clicks off when your gas tank is full. In areas of ozone nonattainment, gas station pumps are equipped with vapor recovery systems that feed back gas vapors into their tanks to prevent vapors from escaping into the air and contributing to air pollution. Any additional gas you try to pump into your tank may be drawn into the vapor line and fed back into the station’s storage tanks.
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Re: Scangauge Dialed In [thegraduate] by ljgbjg
Aug 15, 2008 (11:41 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 15, 2008 11:31 am)

good post graduate -
 
"Any additional gas you try to pump into your tank may be drawn into the vapor line and fed back into the station’s storage tanks".
 
Remember the guy topping off his tank and saying his Honda's tank was 21 gallons and not 18.5? He probably just paid for about 5 gallons of gas to go back into the station storage tanks!
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Re: Scangauge Dialed In [thegraduate] by guitar4him
Aug 15, 2008 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 15, 2008 11:31 am)

I've heard this many times before and I appreciate your advice. However, I've been filling all my cars and trucks up this way for many years with no problems. I don't do this if I'm going to park the vehicle immediately after filling it. As soon as I left the station, I drove enough to drop the tank level at least 1/2 gallon. Being an engineer, I'm aware of the potential problems....and how to avoid them.
 
BTW....where I live, we don't have vapor recovery systems on the pumps.
    
Ken
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Re: Scangauge Dialed In [ljgbjg] by tankbeans
Aug 15, 2008 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: ljgbjg (Aug 15, 2008 11:41 am)

The stations the only one to come out ahead. They get to sell the same gas twice.
 
Isn't that against the laws of physics or something.
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Re: Scangauge Dialed In [guitar4him] by thegraduate
Aug 15, 2008 (11:52 am)
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Replying to: guitar4him (Aug 15, 2008 11:42 am)

Ok... just understand that the only possible consequences of filling to the brim are bad ones (you lose money, you expel gasoline vapors into the environment, you cause a problem with your evap system, etc...).
 
Call me crazy, I just don't see the point in poking that extra bit of gas in there at risk for a problem; new cars are more complicated than cars in years past. Even on trips, I fill up when I get to around a quarter of a tank of fuel anyway; I'm never stuck in a jam worried about how much fuel I have. Plus, the 5-15 miles I might would get out of topping off just aren't worth it to me.
 
I just pump to the click. My results for MPG are consistent within 1 MPG for my regular commute (I use the same gas pump near my home).
 
All that being said, its your car and your money. Congrats on the good mileage
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Re: Scangauge Dialed In [tankbeans] by ljgbjg
Aug 15, 2008 (11:53 am)
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Replying to: tankbeans (Aug 15, 2008 11:45 am)

It is against some law! Law of nature? Man, gas costs enough without paying for it to go back into the tanks at the station!! They probably laugh their butts off when they see people doing that, knowing what is happening. Here in NJ you cannot pump your own gas - it is all full service - yet $3.58 a gallon last weekend for regular, GULF. They set the pump, it stops, they round to the nearest $.05 and you pay. That is it - - and if my tank were any more full the gauge would break - I mean it is WAY left of the F mark when they do that. Any more and it would be pointing directly left (My gauge shows full at 12:00 position).
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Re: Scangauge Dialed In [ljgbjg] by tankbeans
Aug 15, 2008 (1:07 pm)
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Replying to: ljgbjg (Aug 15, 2008 11:53 am)

For a second there I was confused when you said left of full. For me full is at 3 and empty is at 9, clock positions. So my guess is that if my car were to be filled that far it would read at 6.
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Re: Scangauge Dialed In [tankbeans] by ljgbjg
Aug 15, 2008 (1:12 pm)
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Replying to: tankbeans (Aug 15, 2008 1:07 pm)

My gauge goes from 12 -6 , full to empty, clockwise.
 
I have had others that went from 2-10 counterclockwise
 
In fact, my present car is an '08 Accord. My '04 S 2000 went from left to right, 3-9, with leds. No consistency even within an manufacturer!

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