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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 30, 2008 3:12 pm) 
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 30, 2008 3:12 pm) I'm going to assume you mean decreasing economy by increasing consumption. Just pointing out a small error in wording, otherwise I couldn't have stated it better if I tried. |
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Yes coasting in neutral can be illegal, of course you have to do it every time you stop (for a second or two) unless you stall the engine. You also have to do it for a second or so every time you shift. Driving 1 mph over the speed limit is also illegal. I think the law is ancient and goes back to the days of 5,000 lb vehicles with 4 wheel drum brakes that needed the extra engine compression to slow down. There are a ton of goofy laws still on the books. For example in Memphis, Tennessee, a woman is not to drive a car unless a man warns approaching motorists or pedestrians by walking in front of the car that is being driven. As far as needing power to accelerate, I can go from coasting to full power in any gear I want, faster than many an AT can decide what gear it wants and downshift. Unless I have both feet up on the dashboard.  Just kidding.
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Replying to: dudleyr (Jul 30, 2008 5:28 pm) ... You mean that's bad.  I'm learning to drive a 5 speed. Right now it's difficult because the only person who allows me to drive his is about 30 miles away and he works when I'm home and vice-versa. So far I suck, but I haven't done it enough. I do have to say though that this car has got to be a bit tricky since you can hardly hear the engine with the windows open. I think this has to be the quietest car I've ever driven. Especially for a four cylinder. I'm guessing you're used to it by now, but I would have a hard time unless I watch the tach. Out of curiosity does the Accord 5 speed have the stupid shift light, which tells you to shift about 2 years too soon? My brother had an escort that did that and he said that if you were to shift when that thing says so you'd be in fifth gear by about 35 mph. I had a 93 Escort that was a 4 cyl, obviously, but anyway it got about 25 mixed without having to try very hard, but it sounded like a lawn mower, until the muffler fell off and then it sounded like a freight train. My mom's Pontiac has the typical loud I hate you for trying to get me up to speed whine. ...goofy laws on the books... In New Jersey it is illegal to commit murder while wearing a bullet proof vest.
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Dag, I'm glad that I've only tried coasting in neutral a couple of times. Hopefully haven't done anything bad. Hopefully, on an unrelated note to the couple of times that I have coasted, I wanted to share my latest mpg and figure out if I'm the only owner that is getting such bad mpg. to refresh memories, I have an '08 Sedan I4 with automatic transmission. I have 3,000 miles on the car. I just drove 188 miles, mostly highway on two trips, driving just 60mph using cruise control. In fact, because only driving 60mph in a 65mph zone, I only had to take the cruise off twice the entire trips. Otherwise, picture me taking 4 trips of about 40 miles each constantly at 60mph on cruise. The other 28 miles were local miles getting to/from house to highway. That said, I just filled up and put in 8.23 gallons of unleaded gas. That comes to just 22.8 mpg with mostly constant highway driving. What's going wrong? That's barely above the city mileage epa. Shouldn't I have gotten very close to 30mpg or maybe even more given the drives I did? What could be causing such bad gas mileage, and if I bring it to the dealer for service, what should I have them look for? |
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Replying to: dudleyr (Jul 29, 2008 10:55 am) I did get a kick out of your remarks, lol. Later Caaz |
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Replying to: caaz (Jul 30, 2008 7:45 pm) You need extra room in your gas tank to allow the gasoline to expand. If you top off your tank, the extra gas may evaporate into your vehicle’s vapor collection system. That system may become fouled and will not work properly causing your vehicle to run poorly and have high gas emissions. Topping off the gas tank can result in your paying for gasoline that is fed back into the station's tanks because your gas tank is full. The gas nozzle automatically clicks off when your gas tank is full. In areas of ozone nonattainment, gas station pumps are equipped with vapor recovery systems that feed back gas vapors into their tanks to prevent vapors from escaping into the air and contributing to air pollution. Any additional gas you try to pump into your tank may be drawn into the vapor line and fed back into the station’s storage tanks.
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rrbhokies - I wouldn't worry too much yet. The car needs to keep breaking in. You might try a little extra air in the tires as well, and maybe switch to synthetic oil at some point. These won't be majic bullets, but will help a little. Are you cruising up to mountain lake? That would sure hurt your mpg. Another thing is that your sample is too small - you need to use a full tank to better judge your mpg and reduce your fill up error. Also try to use the same pump and fill the same way. Lastly - city mpg will drop your highway mileage like a rock. 28 miles of city out of 188 highway miles will bring things down quite a bit. On top of that you have 4 different starts for your highway, so the car has to warm up 4 times, each time using more gasoline. Are you using pure gasoline or an ethanol blend. 10% ethanol takes about 5% off the top of your mileage. Tankbeans - I have been driving a stick since the 70's and also found the Accord to be extremely quiet (compared to my Integra) and left the car in 4th gear a few times on the highway because I was used to the high rpm. Even left it in third once. It was not unusual for the Integra to go over 4,000 rpm for hours at a time so it took a little adjusting to the lower rpms. I usually noticed when I took my foot off of the gas and the car slowed down right away instead of gradually. The timing of the clutch will come. Tought my wife on an '80 Scirocco and she was the one who bought the Integra with the stick. Still remember when she was just learning and parked against a small concrete parking curb. When she came back to the car the spot in front of her was open so she thought she would pull through instead of backing out (forgot about the parking curb). She let the clutch out, but the car stalled. She figured she needed to give it more gas, and more, and more. Finally she jumped over the stop(s) and bounced out of the parking lot. 
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caaz- Yes - while fill up error does happen, especially with small fillups, it can be greatly reduced if the same person fills up the tank in the same manner and the same pump. Don't worry about the one or two (mostly one) vocal people who doubt your numbers. You know how accurate they are as do most others. I did enjoy your different driving styles for the same long trip that repeatedly showed what the Camry could do at various speeds. |
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Replying to: caaz (Jul 30, 2008 7:45 pm) On the other hand I'm not as concerned with accuracy since I generally, well for the past year, have filled up only at about 3 different SAs. I would assume that their pumps are all pretty much the same. One thing I might try is filling ever other week instead of every week. Because by the end of each week I'm only down "half" tank. I can generally go another week without worrying, but I haven't up 'til now. I also remember more people saying that it might yield a higher number because the gas is being depleted. I'll have to try it. I think I might also put a touch more air in my tires. Does anybody know of a decent gauge? I have three and they all read different numbers. Would a digital be a little better? |
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