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Re: WHAT ARE U GETTING on 2008 V6 w/VCM [ljgbjg] by parviz
Apr 13, 2008 (6:48 pm)
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Replying to: ljgbjg (Apr 07, 2008 6:46 am)

One should take the trip computer reading within the context that it is intended for. The rational for your example is that when you are in city streets burning more gas the computer estimates the "range" (remaining miles) based on the current gas usage. You would get a different range with the same amount of gas in the tank if you moved to a freeway quick and started cruising at about 65 mph. I have been checking the computer readout with my own calcs doing the old fashion way and it is really close, not withstanding the caveat I mentioned earlier.
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Re: WHAT ARE U GETTING on 2008 V6 w/VCM [parviz] by ljgbjg
Apr 14, 2008 (5:56 am)
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Replying to: parviz (Apr 13, 2008 6:43 pm)

Guess I just like the old fashioned way of calculating mileage.
 
This past week we put on 200 miles of urban/suburban stop and go driving and 245 miles of highway driving at 70-75 MPH with occasional bursts of speed to pass trucks where I really put my foot into it and called on all 268 horses. I had filled it, then stopped in PA and put $10.00 in it (3 gallons) to get enough gas to get us back to NJ where the gas is about $.30- .40 LESS per gallon than in PA or NY state. Once in NJ and the gas $3.05/gallon, I filled it and it took another 16 gallons, for a total of 19 gallons for 445 miles. About 23.4 MPG. Altogether not that bad considering the almost 50/50 mix, and how hard I got on it for bursts of acceleration on occasion. Seems your all around mileage and mine are supporting that achieved by Edmunds' drivers in their long term test - 24 MPG +/- .5-1 MPG.
 
I wonder about something - with older carbureted cars there were adjustements that could and had to be made for altitude - e.g a car in Denver would be set up differently than a car in Miami Beach. What happend now? Do the computer programs in the ECMs automatically calculate altitude and change the fuel mix as necessary? I am running our car primarily near sea level - up the Hudson Valley, with occasional running probably in the 1000-2000 ft above sea level territory. And in comparing our MPG here on this forum, perhaps we should also mention our driving conditions? Someone out in the Rockies is going to be calling on more power more often than someone in Iowa!
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Re: WHAT ARE U GETTING on 2008 V6 w/VCM [ljgbjg] by bug4
Apr 14, 2008 (6:59 am)
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Replying to: ljgbjg (Apr 14, 2008 5:56 am)

I run at 6000-9000 feet elevation in my Honda and I'm sure it does affect fuel economy. But, because of that elevation, I also get to use 85 grade fuel. From what I understand, there simply isn't enough O2 in the combustion air to take advantage of an 87+ octane level. Having said that, at 7500 on the odometer, my 08 Accord I4, AT, EX-L consistently gets 26-29 mpg with 90% interstate driving (75-85 mph.) (I drive fast, but tend not to accelerate or decelerate quickly - and I never let the engine race on hills).
 
With regard to the engine's adjustment to elevation, from my limited understanding, the engine does not adjust the "mix." Rather, it adjusts the timing. The mix stays the same, but the timing is advanced or retarded to account for the different speeds at which combustion takes place at different elevations (i.e. different O2 levels). Of course, on all modern engines, this all takes place automatically.
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Re: WHAT ARE U GETTING on 2008 V6 w/VCM [bug4] by ljgbjg
Apr 14, 2008 (7:09 am)
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Replying to: bug4 (Apr 14, 2008 6:59 am)

Interesting - I can understand the timing adjustment and thanks for that explanation.
I was under the impression too that the carburetor had to have different jets in it for different altitudes - either leaning out fuel/air mixture because of less oxygen at higher altitudes. Does the ECM do that automatically these days for the fuel injection?
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Odometer Accuracy by modula2
Apr 14, 2008 (7:50 am)
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In trying to calculate MPG for my new EX-L, i tested the accuracy of the odometer. In a 100 mile test, I discovered it was reading 3% low (showed 97 miles). Have any of you determined the error rate of your odometers? What is the range of error rate?
 
Thanks
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Re: Odometer Accuracy [modula2] by ljgbjg
Apr 14, 2008 (8:27 am)
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Replying to: modula2 (Apr 14, 2008 7:50 am)

If so, more important than MPG, your warranty will last 3% longer!
 
As for MPG - the difference is totally insignificant. 100/6 gallons = 16.66,, 97/6 = 16.66, 300/12 = 25, 291/12= 24.25
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Re: Odometer Accuracy [modula2] by sunnfun
Apr 14, 2008 (4:54 pm)
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Replying to: modula2 (Apr 14, 2008 7:50 am)

Uh oh. Didn't Honda just settle a lawsuit over this very thing? I forget what year(s)and models but I just read about it recently.
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Re: Odometer Accuracy [modula2] by tankbeans
Apr 14, 2008 (5:12 pm)
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Replying to: modula2 (Apr 14, 2008 7:50 am)

Just curious, how did you determine that your odometer was inaccurate? It's sort of a point that was glossed over, I thought. I know tire size has an affect, how large of an affect I don't know, but anyway how you determined the 3% inaccuracy would be interesting to find out. I guess I've never put much thought into it.
 
I know that when people start changing tire sizes they say that you need to have the car 'reset' to make up for the larger tires. I don't think that was what you did, but I tend to get side-tracked. Sorry about that.
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Re: Odometer Accuracy [sunnfun] by tallman1
Apr 14, 2008 (7:14 pm)
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Replying to: sunnfun (Apr 14, 2008 4:54 pm)

Didn't Honda just settle a lawsuit over this very thing?
 
You can read all about it here:
 
Accord Class Action Suit
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Re: Odometer Accuracy [tankbeans] by isellhondas
Apr 15, 2008 (5:29 am)
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Replying to: tankbeans (Apr 14, 2008 5:12 pm)

I knew a guy who determined his speedometer was off by using the mile marker signs along the highway.
 
Then I learned that they use the county pick up trucks to place those signs!
 
So, whose speedometer is off?
 
And who really cares? I sure don't! a 3% error if this is for real is nothing. I don't think a speedometer/odometer was ever meant to be a precision measuring devise.

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