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Re: 09-09-09 is my 9th [dewey] by ruking1
Sep 11, 2009 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Sep 11, 2009 6:59 am)

While folks may vilify diesel folks as "biased", I have always (of late or since they have been on the market 2003 Prius Hybrid) evaluated hybrids, for our particular wants and needs. (Honda Insights were more of a curiosity when they first hit the markets. 2door commute cars were not considered) The per mile driven figures for the hybrids have always been outflanked.
 
If you do 95% of your driving in the city, (or my perceptions of "city", I have driven in Wash D.C., NYC, Philly, Chicago, SF, LA, Boston, Portland, Seattle, Vancouver, BC., Quebec, Las Vegas, Phoenix, Dallas, San Antonio, etc) then it is totally amazing how the systems have disallowed EV or plug in electric cars and for so long. At the very least, you (we) should have been able to order a (lack of a better word) city shut down idle function, option.
 
So for example, while diesels can be and are adapted/adopted for intense stop and go and idling, it has never been its forte. So on a practical selection level, do you select a great highway car that can do stop and go/city commutes or do you select one that was designed for city stop and go/commutes and can do highways adequately. Mine has been freeway commutes (with rolling parking lot realities) and road car.
 
So a real world question: In your 95% city driving, what do you get (mpg) on your hybrid?
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Re: 09-09-09 is my 9th [ruking1] by john1701a
Sep 11, 2009 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Sep 11, 2009 7:22 am)

>do you select a great highway car that can do stop and go/city commutes or do you select one that was designed for city stop and go/commutes and can do highways adequately
 
Since the 2010 Prius does great for both, that question is quite misleading.
 
That's the whole point of a FULL hybrid. And the newest generation clearly demonstrates its ability to adapt well to a variety of conditions.
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Re: 09-09-09 is my 9th [john1701a] by ruking1
Sep 11, 2009 (5:52 pm)
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Replying to: john1701a (Sep 11, 2009 5:36 pm)

Again that is really the sound of one hand clapping ,as it also can be said of diesels. For folks dealing wih altitude, the additional benefit with the turbo diesel is they do not lose as much performance altitude as the Prius does.
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Re: 09-09-09 is my 9th [ruking1] by john1701a
Sep 11, 2009 (7:26 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Sep 11, 2009 5:52 pm)

You can "say" it all you want.
 
But that won't change reality.
 
Show me a diesel (non-hybrid) that consistently delivers 50 MPG in a variety of driving conditions.
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Re: 09-09-09 is my 9th [john1701a] by ruking1
Sep 11, 2009 (7:31 pm)
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Replying to: john1701a (Sep 11, 2009 7:26 pm)

As you can deny it all you will.
 
It doesn't change reality.
 
I have posted in other diesel threads, but then you already know that. Since this is a real world Prius mpg forum, you know where the diesel threads are.
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Re: 09-09-09 is my 9th [ruking1] by john1701a
Sep 12, 2009 (5:33 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Sep 11, 2009 7:31 pm)

Then please stay there. YOU brought up the comparison topic, using an outdated example. The 2010 non-hybrid diesel offerings are quite different, not as efficient due to the emission requirement changes.
 
54.1 MPG is my average as of 6,840 summer miles with my 2010 Prius.
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Re: 09-09-09 is my 9th [john1701a] by ruking1
Sep 12, 2009 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: john1701a (Sep 12, 2009 5:33 am)

For sure 54.1 mpg is very good. All the best !
 
I would surmise 56-59 mpg in the TDI if I drove like you.
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Re: 09-09-09 is my 9th [ruking1] by john1701a
Sep 12, 2009 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Sep 12, 2009 7:12 am)

I highly doubt that.
 
My driving is at the speed limit, with the flow of traffic. The daily commute starts with a cruise at 70 MPH, then near the end slows down to 45 MPH.
 
I don't do anything special. In fact, I often make hypermilers upset by promoting the motto of: JUST DRIVE IT.
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Re: 09-09-09 is my 9th [john1701a] by ruking1
Sep 12, 2009 (8:15 am)
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Replying to: john1701a (Sep 12, 2009 8:10 am)

Actually as you talk, so would I.
 
It would be more like 60-62 mpg.
 
However like you, I subscribe more to the "drive more worry less" philosophy. So I drive in an almost perpetual "italian tune mode" for a mere 50 mpg.
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Re: 09-09-09 is my 9th [ruking1] by dmathews3
Sep 12, 2009 (11:51 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Sep 12, 2009 8:15 am)

and the winner is.........................

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