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Re: 2010 PRIUS MPG [cheryl06prius] by butchfoote
Aug 03, 2009 (4:25 pm)
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Replying to: cheryl06prius (Jul 28, 2009 11:00 am)

You can justify the trades easily if you invert Mpg to gpm's. Most people compare mpg's which is not effective in making calculations for savings.
 
Instead use gallons per 1000 miles. For example, 40 mpg is 25 gallons per 1000 miles. 50 mpg is 20 gallons per 1000 miles. Savings 5 gallons per 1000 miles. If you drive 12,000 miles per year, you save 60 gallons of gas. 60 gallons times $2.50 here in Boston works out to a whopping $150 dollars savings per year, or $450 over 3 years.
 
Trading in an older Prius for a 2010, costs a lot more than you will save in 3, 5, or even 7 years. Buy a new Prius for some one in your family. Keep the old one until it drops.
 
The greenest cars are the Prius's already on the highway, because the materials and energy to build them have already been consumed.
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Re: effect on open windows on FE [dmathews3] by vanderhorstg
Aug 04, 2009 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Aug 02, 2009 9:04 am)

I agree. I used to think that running the AC was harder on a car's engine, and have been proven incorrect. And with the aerodynamic design of the Prius, I would think that the affect of having windows down on FE would be even greater. I too, prefer the quiet inside - that's one of the things that sold me on the Prius; other hybrid vehicles sound like an airplane engine behind the back seat!
I use the automatic temperature control in my Prius, and am careful to modify the cooling to a slightly higher temp in hot weather (like last week in Oregon!) so as not to overwork the AC.
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Re: effect on open windows on FE [vanderhorstg] by tyler70
Aug 05, 2009 (8:21 pm)
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Replying to: vanderhorstg (Aug 04, 2009 7:29 am)

I too think that using AC too much is not good for the engine. where did you get the information (evidence) that this is incorrect?? of course I would like to be proven wrong in this case so I can use more of AC.
I also have another question... if in fact having AC is harder on the engine, then does it make a difference if I have the AC on lower vs higher???
one last question, can anyone tell me where I can find the list of all voice commands for the new Prius ?? thanks
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Re: effect on open windows on FE [tyler70] by vanderhorstg
Aug 06, 2009 (9:04 am)
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Replying to: tyler70 (Aug 05, 2009 8:21 pm)

My mechanic is the one that confirmed this for me. I've also done some research online that gives valuable info regarding when to use or not use AC. Go to http://www.ask.com and ask the question about using AC in a car, or try Click & Clack's website: cartalk.com
 
What I'm not sure of is whether the battery or gasoline drives the power on the AC system in a Toyota Prius. Anyone know?
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Re: effect on open windows on FE [vanderhorstg] by sthoge
Aug 06, 2009 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: vanderhorstg (Aug 06, 2009 9:04 am)

The battery drives the AC on the Prius. That is why you can have the engine off, but still get cold air. At least that's the way it works on mine.
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2010 PRIUS FE by cheryl06prius
Aug 13, 2009 (9:59 am)
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As my 2010 Prius2 nears 3000 miles, my calculated FE is 58MPG combined. The fuel consumption gauge continues to read higher than the calculated mpg,i.e. gauge shows 62MPG for 300 miles,59MPG calculated. I still find the improved highway FE to be the major improvement with the 2010 prius, where I used to limit my interstate cruising speeds to 60MPH, I now travel at 65MPH for most of the trip.
 
The EV mode switch is a step in the right direction but needs much improvement-of course that won't happen until better batteries are developed. I like to use the EV mode in parking lots but find that most of the time it won't function in that mode for 2 or 3 minutes after the engine is started, so I wind up using it when entering, but not exiting the lot. My car won't operate in the EV mode at more than 25MPH so it is of very limited use for street driving. Driving at 25MPH or less when other traffic is present is a no-brainer.
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Re: 2010 PRIUS FE [cheryl06prius] by john1701a
Aug 13, 2009 (7:24 pm)
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Replying to: cheryl06prius (Aug 13, 2009 9:59 am)

>> My car won't operate in the EV mode at more than 25MPH
 
45 MPH is the maximum electric-only speed for STEALTH mode.
 
Since it's automatic (no button) and the engine is stopped (zero RPM) just like with EV, that really doesn't matter. The real benefit of EV mode is telling the engine to shut off sooner, which was a big deal with the prior generation but not as much any more.
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'10 Prius struggling to maintain 50 MPG avg by justlooking9
Aug 14, 2009 (7:59 am)
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I found that I needed to alter my driving habits to maintain 50 MPG. In driving around town under 45 MPH, no problem maintaining 50 MPG, but there is quite a lag when accelerating after turning a corner, and even modest hills bog the Prius down if you try to keep the hybrid system indicator out of the power/red zone.
 
Highway driving is harder to maintain 50 MPG. Using a short steep uphill on-ramp and trying to get to highway speed quickly to merge into heavy traffic, is doable, but the MPG takes an immediate hit. Long steep inclines and anytime highway speed acceleration is needed while not on a decline, also hit the MPG.
 
Anytime I can maintain the same speed in city or highway, even on modest inclines, I get great mileage. But as soon as I have to slow drastically, because someone cuts in front or just heavy traffic, accelerating back up to cruising speed really eats into the MPG.
 
I'm still on my first tank of gas. Hopefully as the Prius gets broken in, and I get better at adapting to driving a Prius, my mileage will improve and it will be easier to achieve 50 MPG or better!
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Questions, questions and even more questions? by dewey
Aug 18, 2009 (6:22 am)
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Cheryl, John and Prius2007 thanks for responding to my prior post.
 
Do you three or anyone else here know the answers to the following :
 
I cant achieve the 52 MPG EPA figures. I am get most the time MPG figures in the 40s. I am following the rules of fuel efficient drivng but that's just not working. Maybe there is a rule I dont know? Brake slowly, accelerate slowly, keep speed at constant levels, use "B" going downhills, tires are a bit overinflated...and still I am just not getting it.
 
Anyways I know I am doing something wrong or maybe I am doing everything right but Toronto traffic disallows me from reaching my potential?
 
Does anybody maximize their mileage by driving on EV mode?
In my particular case with my 2010 Prius the fast battery discharge on EV mode negatively affects my mileage to the point where I find Eco mode as being the only mode that maximizes my mileage.
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Re: Questions, questions and even more questions? [dewey] by samiam_68
Aug 18, 2009 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 18, 2009 6:22 am)

Just drive it like you would drive an ordinary car. Don't try to eke out every last drop of fuel yourself - let the car decide how to do that.

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