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Toyota Prius, Hybrid Cars, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Sedan
#545 of 997 Re: 75 MPG ?? downhill for sure... [scottc3]
Apr 26, 2008 (10:59 am)
I purchased a 2008 Toyota Prius 4/19/08. I have been pampering it and taking it easy around town. I've now have about 700 miles on it. I'm getting around 55 MPG. Most of my driving is on the freeway at around 65 MPH. Is this pretty normal? How many miles until the motor is broken in? How many miles should I drive it before I can share in the joy of pushing the accelorator pedal all the way down to the floor?
#546 of 997 Nothing for $23,000 Comes Close to a Prius
Apr 26, 2008 (7:42 pm)
Just purchased a 2008 Prius on 4/18/08. 250 miles, averaging 46 mpg. Nothing else I would even consider driving comes even close. A Fit? The last car I test drove before buying the Prius was a Fit. Sure, 32 mpg overall, but comparing the Prius to the Fit is a joke. The Fit is a fine car for what it is, but even at a $6,000 difference it is a joke. Every day I have this car I am more amazed. Whether it is the technology, the comfort, the fit & finish, the ride, whatever. The overall quality of the Prius is better compared to a $35,000 car. It is a far better car in many ways, even without leather, than the $35,000 Volvo S60 I traded for the Prius, and I love Volvos - my other car is a XC70. Three days after buying the Prius I gave a co-worker a ride home in the Prius. Two days later he bought one!
#547 of 997 MPG question and Consumption Screen
Apr 27, 2008 (3:48 am)
Greetings to all. I just purchased an '08 Prius, with the #5 package, which was how the car was appointed. Like many of you here, I could not rationalize filling my 2003 Pathfinder with gas to the tune of more than $350.00 per month, just to drive mainly to work. I finally saw the light as it were, and am a very happy owner of this new way of thinking about driving! I love the car, and the navigation screen, blue-tooth feature, etc. All I need now, is free time to learn it all! My question is this. The dealership filled the tank prior to me receiving the car. I have only driven a total of 18 miles so far. Yesterday I noticed, that one of the bars on the gas indicator is gone, which obviously indicates that this gas has been used. I am concerned about this, as I can't imagine getting the mileage that you are supposed to get. Also, the consumption screen shows a changing MPG such as 18.5, 22.7, 40.8, 33.4, as I am driving. I am a bit confused by this and want to know how many mpg I can expect to get driving the correct way, and how do I calculate how many actual mpg I get. I hope these questions are not dumb ones, as I find the consumption screen a little confusing and am hopeful that someone on these threads might have an answer for me. I would be most grateful.
Also, the book refers to "Type A" and "Type B". what is that?
#548 of 997 Re: MPG question and Consumption Screen [rolin]
Apr 27, 2008 (4:22 am)
I wish they had more detailed information on how the screen works as far as tracking milage. For one thing why does it stop at 99.9 MPH? I know that the meter is samping MPH all the time and storing and adveraging the information on MPH but how many samples does it use? Anyway I love my new Toyota! I haven't got the air kick thing down yet but I'm working on it.
#549 of 997 Re: MPG question and Consumption Screen [rolin]
May 02, 2008 (6:56 am)
Hi Rolin - I just purchased an '08 Prius w/ the #2 package, and had many of the same questions you have about fuel consumption. I think I'm starting to figure it out. First, I was told that I would get about 600 miles to a tank of gas. NOT true! Ha. I get about 450 miles/tank. The computer tells me that I'm getting an average of around 45 - 46 mpg, but both times I've refueled, I've done the math myself (I reset Trip A odometer each time I refuel, so the next time I know how far I've gone), and I'm really only getting about 43.5 mpg. Not sure why. I know the tricks like accelerating as quickly as possible to the speed you're going to go, then staying there to maximize mpg, and coasting a lot, and all that. Don't know if the mileage will get better over time, or what. But it's not quite as good as I'd expected.
The way to calculate your real mpg is to set the odometer to 0 when you refuel. Then, next time you go get more gas, divide the # of miles you've driven - say, 423.9 miles - by the # of gallons you've just purchased - say, 9.8 gallons. That would be 423.9 / 9.8 = 43.25 mpg.
As for consumption vs. the other screen (can't remember what it's called right now) - one screen shows you what you're getting at any particular moment, and yeah, it'll go way down when you're accelerating hard or going up a hill. The other screen shows you your average over the past x miles (you have to reset it yourself, and it'll tell you how many miles you've gone since the reset).
Hope that helps.
May 02, 2008 (7:56 am)
For what it is worth my FE stats for the first 3 months of 2008, with my '06 Prius, is 50.8MPG over 5227 miles. This is in Western NY and reflects the windy and cold winter conditions, 75% level, about 50/50 city/highway split.
My advice to Prius drivers attempting to calculate FE: develop a system of filling the tank to the same exact level, and not relying on the elapsed FE gauge. This takes great patience and it is very slow, don't attempt it when the gas pump line is busy. If you live in NJ where there is no self-service, you're out of luck.
My elapsed gauge fluctuates a great deal. One fill up it will show 57MPG and manually it calculates to 50MPG, the next fill up it will be 50MPG both ways. It will take many fill ups to establish an accurate FE figure. Don't rely on two or three fill ups.
That said it is still a great car and I plan to purchase an '09. I just wish the bladder factor didn't make it so difficult filling the tank.
#551 of 997 Re: FE Report [cheryl06prius]
May 02, 2008 (5:52 pm)
I agree with you. I attempt to fill mine up to the inner ring each time so I know that it is full. Only thing, near the full level, the gas tank actually honks at me, then shortly afterwards, it burps up about a cup full of gas all over the side of the car. It looks as if there is a slight eruption in the tank.
The difference I have between the computer mpg and my calculated mpg is that the cal. comes out about 10% less than the computer has. Still, 46-48 mpg cal. isn't bad.
#552 of 997 Re: FE Report [johndjr]
May 03, 2008 (6:53 am)
I hear a distinctive gurgling sound as the tank gets full, guess you could characterize it as "honking". Sometimes I'll leave the nozzle in the tank for 60 seconds or more to allow the gas time to recede and not spill out. Still i've spilled my share of gas, it does take time and patience filling the tank.
#553 of 997 Re: FE Report [johndjr]
May 03, 2008 (9:46 am)
Why is it so important to know your mileage for each tankful? Just fill until the pump stops each time. Figure the mileage based on that. Then every 5, 10 or 100 fill-ups average the actual mileage and the gage mileage. That will give you a more accurate overall true mileage, gage mileage and difference figure. It will also save you money in spilled gas, and save the environment some spilled gas/emissions. Even given the difference in the stopping point in pumps, it will all average out in the end. My Prius is my office. I don't have time to wait for the tank to "burp"'. At 195,000 miles and over 420 fill-ups, can you imagine the time and spills I have saved?
May 04, 2008 (4:45 am)
One reason for continuing to pump after the automatic shut off is that you can ordinarily pump another l to l.5 gallons. In a pinch that is another 50-75 miles you can drive w/o refueling.
I'm not concerned about the mileage for each tankful because I realize the bladder issue distorts the calculation. My main concern is knowing the same exact level for each fill up so that after l0,20 or more you can make an accurate calculation.
I'd rather take another 2-3 minutes flling the tank and having the extended driving range in addition to the "exact level" constant.