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Re: cold weather effect on mileage? [temsley] by cdhc
Mar 28, 2009 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: temsley (Mar 28, 2009 5:54 am)

It seems to me that its six of one, half dozen of another. Your benefit in pre-warming the car would be a warm interior & defrosted windshield. Yes it will use some gas. I've noticed that having the car 'on', if you have the temp setting to 'max high', the gas engine is running all the time. When you have it set for something lower like 75 degrees, the gas engine will cycle on & off. I don't see any other benefit for pre-warming the car.
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Test drive by wvgasguy
Apr 26, 2009 (6:38 am)
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I'm planning to get a 2010 Prius and decided to drive the 09 model just to see if it was something I really couldn't live with. I understand the 2010 will address several issues that I might find undesirable so I kept that in mind.
 
Upon takiow me how to use the NAV/ FE readouts and I reset them. I noticed the SOC was low so I wasn't surprised that the first 4 miles on 4 lane did not start out all that great, but the battery was charging. I pulled off the interstate and started back towards the dealership on a rural road that went through a small town. By the time I got to the dealership I was sitting with a 48mpg reading. I remembered that I wanted to know how much passing power the Prius had so I took it back out and flogged it pretty good for a couple of miles. It dropped to 43 (which means I was probably around 30 for that short trip. A little dissapointed in the power. Sure you can go fast but you'd better not pull out in front of someone expecting a power surge when you floor it.
 
All in all for what I want, and with another 20+hp I think the 2010 will satisfy me. I see no reason why I won't be able to average the 50mpg since I will seldom flog the car
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Re: Test drive [wvgasguy] by tiff_c
Apr 26, 2009 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: wvgasguy (Apr 26, 2009 6:38 am)

All in all for what I want, and with another 20+hp I think the 2010 will satisfy me. I see no reason why I won't be able to average the 50mpg since I will seldom flog the car
 
My wife and I have thought the same thing. The only time we really juice the car is when merging onto the highway. Most of our trips are highway set at 70mph and just cruise. Most of the rest is Sub-urban roads, about 40 mph some roads have a lot of stops others have virtually none. The 20hp extra should fix the problems with the 2009's lack of power. Merging here can be scary as no one will let you in. Our 2009 Honda Fit Sport Auto gets it's Italian tuneups by regularly merging onto the highway.
Other than that, we drive pretty easy and for good reason, lots of cops out with radar. if you can't go fast you might as well be economical.
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Re: cold weather effect on mileage? [dmathews3] by priuswannabe1
May 03, 2009 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Mar 28, 2009 8:18 am)

You have a remote start on your Prius? I didn't think such a thing existed. If so, where did you buy the remote starter?
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Bought 2010 Prius, not Insight or Jetta TDI by bwilson4web
Jun 01, 2009 (1:01 pm)
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We picked up our Prius III three days ago and I wanted to share our preliminary results from the car as driven off the dealer's lot:
 
      50 mph - 67 MPG
      60 mph - 62 MPG
      65 mph - 55 MPG
      70 mph - 53 MPG
      75 mph - 49 MPG
      80 mph - 39 MPG (*)
 
Test protocol: two runs in opposite directions averaged, temp: 82-84F, wind 15-20 mph steady; speed cruise control maintained and GPS validated; distance: 7-15 miles per run; mileage trip meter reset after GPS validated speed. (*) Temp: 62F, wind 15 mph steady, defroster on by accident.
 
I also ran a series of hill climb tests to compare with our 2,700 lb, 2003 Prius versus the 3,000 lb. 2010 Prius:
 
      55 mph - .0725 gal. (2003 Prius, 2,700 lbs, straight gas)
      55 mph - .0675 gal. (2010 Prius, 3,040 lbs. E10)
 
The 2010 has at least 6.9% better performance. This also shows up as extra power when climbing a hill:
 
      60-65 mph - gas-only 2003 Prius hill climb speed
      80-85 mph - gas-only 2010 Prius hill climb speed
 
The gas-only climb speed is how fast a hybrid goes up a 6% grade hill without drawing on traction battery power. I've climbed this 6% grade hill at 80 mph in my 2003 Prius only to deplete the traction battery at the 525 ft. crest. In contrast, the 2010 Prius will continue up at 80 mph until the gas runs out. But I got this car to replace our oldest, 2001 Echo.
 
My wife loves her new, 2010 Prius because compared to the Echo and my 2003 Prius; it is quieter; has more power; more room; more comfortable seats and ride; and burns less gas. Her 2010 Prius handles the road better than the Echo and 2003 Prius with significantly improved safety from the frame and air bags. Happily, my wife's 2001 Echo sold after nine years with 29,500 miles. In three and a half years, I've put 70,000 miles on our 2003 Prius getting just over 52 MPG and I'll continue to drive it "until the wheels fall off."
 
I tested the new Honda Insight and hit my head on the door jam. After adjusting the seat, it felt like a coffin with my head barely clearing the roof. Worse, the instruments had to be viewed through the steering wheel and folding down the seats, the interior looked more like a homeless cardboard box so driving was out of the question.
 
We've heard a lot about the Jetta TDI but the automatic Jetta TDI does not get better than our 2001 automatic Echo. Worse, VW brags about their engine noise!
 
So we voted with our dollars, $24,250, and after four days, are very happy. Our 32 MPG, low mileage Echo went to a family of five for $3,000 and replaced their 22 MPG pickup. Everyone has moved up and the Honda Insight and Jetta TDI remain on the sales lot. – Bob Wilson
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Re: Just my experience [kdhspyder] by iambillythekid
Jun 13, 2009 (8:21 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Nov 24, 2008 3:55 pm)

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2010 real-world MPG by john1701a
Jun 21, 2009 (7:26 am)
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Lots of patience is required to collect all the data. Improvements to the design of Prius when it comes to heat retention and the impact that has on efficiency won't be apparent until the winter.
 
But nonetheless, we can enjoy summer reports in the meantime.
 
After 4 tanks and 4 weeks, here's mine: 55.0 MPG average at 2,015 miles
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Re: 2010 real-world MPG [john1701a] by fantesia28
Jun 24, 2009 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: john1701a (Jun 21, 2009 7:26 am)

I just picked up my new 2010 Prius last week. I am still on the first tank of gas, so I haven't been able to calculate this way yet, but according to the computer for my last two trips, I am averaging between 52 - 54 mpg!! Totally beats my Camry's 26-27 MPG on a good day!!
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great mpg numbers by jweaver39
Jun 28, 2009 (9:44 am)
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had my 09 pruis for 2months/1800 miles driven, just tried to see how far i can go on a tank of gas. got down to the last pip 611 miles-filled up 11gals-approx. 55mpg, no hypermiling 80% city driving/20% highway, just drive like a hybrid should be driven maintain speed limits use battery power whenever possible, i love it (previous vechile 98 suv which got 16-18mpg
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Re: great mpg numbers [jweaver39] by fantesia28
Jul 01, 2009 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: jweaver39 (Jun 28, 2009 9:44 am)

Wow! I assume you are getting such great gas mileage because of the city driving... my driving is mainly highway thus I assume why it's lower.

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