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Suzuki Grand Vitara 2006 through 2008

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Re: [norwoodsmn] by steve_ HOST
Nov 04, 2008 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: norwoodsmn (Nov 04, 2008 10:56 am)

The 4 is only available in AWD in the US and FWD is fine for us (although I've been trying to talk my wife into looking at a Forester too, but I'm not gaining much traction there either). The real world mpg reports are still pretty good on the 4 with the MT.
 
But we digress...
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Re: [steve_] by norwoodsmn
Nov 04, 2008 (1:54 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 04, 2008 12:08 pm)

Are we digressing? I don't think so only because TDing the pair directly answers the question of how good the [now] truly "new GV" is, and isn't that what most everyone here has to be wondering? As "we've" done both now, incidentally the wife agrees it's advantage Suzuki. It's really necessary to take yr. better half out there for spin(s) Steve, to bring ones perspective right up to date owing to all the new developments [for both] for '09.
 
Maybe I'm off here?, but further I see the two as chief competitors against one another for active recreational users who potentially can make do without the low range gears.
 
Think the 2wd GV model is std. base for '09 in the US, with AWD, (but no low range), optional for their four cylinder? At least AWD is std. eqpt. on our base JA here in The Great White North. Still nothing on the US site, but spending time to get it all working right first, might not be a bad idea.....
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Re: [norwoodsmn] by steve_ HOST
Nov 04, 2008 (1:58 pm)
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Replying to: norwoodsmn (Nov 04, 2008 1:54 pm)

Yeah, but I have a Subaru, and I'm of the mindset that the Forester and Outback are wagons.
 
The guy next door has a Grand Vitara (which he likes very much btw), but it looks more like a SUV to me and my wife really doesn't want anything that looks remotely like an SUV. I've had no luck with my Forester hints, much less something more rugged looking, and she flat turned down a test drive after just sitting in a mild CR-V. So far she's liking the Scion xD the best. That's my SX4 digression in here, since it seems more directly comparable to the xD than the GV.
 
But your point is well taken. I'll try to sneak both of them on her list.
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Re: [steve_] by norwoodsmn
Nov 04, 2008 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 04, 2008 1:58 pm)

Ah, real time blogging with the host, cool.....
 
The real Beauty of the Beast is that while it may look like a politically incorrect SUV?, (but it's the same size as a CRV, right?), advise her that the '09 2.4 liter:
 
1.) Has attended AA meetings with it's 2.7 liter cousin, and thus has not acquired it's drinking problem.
   
2.) It no longer drives as much "like one" in the handling department, and in fact is a real pleasure to drive. She'd love an auto box one, I'm sure.
 
On station wagons, right, but the additional space in the "a bit bigger" GV would be a real blessing. But that Forester has a mini "cavern" back there too.
 
If it's more car like though, I hear her. The security of AWD is sure a blessing though in either the GV or Forester, as you well know. We encouraged my dad to buy a new Outback a few years ago for safety reasons. Happy shopping.
 
PS: gotcha on our digression. But: my son would love to have the Scion coupe. We finally get Scions here in Canada next year. JUST SAW this Toyota brand is now considered to have the best RELIABILITY in the biz. Impressive. Again, the "R" word would be a factor to have to consider in the purchase of either the mostly all new '09 Forester, or GV. But we shall digress no more, (maybe)...
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Re: [norwoodsmn] by steve_ HOST
Nov 04, 2008 (3:46 pm)
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Replying to: norwoodsmn (Nov 04, 2008 2:40 pm)

She'd love an auto box one, I'm sure.
 
It's hard to say what a deal killer would be, but an automatic would be right up there with black paint. We both miss having a stick shift.
 
We will keep either the wagon or minivan, so we'd like this car to be smaller (ergo her immediate nixing of the CR-V). So the Grand Vitara probably won't get far on her list.
 
We owned mostly FWD cars in Anchorage for 20 winters and like them fine, especially since they tend to get better mpg than AWD/4WD flavors. There are times when it's nice though.
 
Reliability is a nice plus, but most all cars are pretty reliable these days. Scions sales were slumping before the recent economic crash and still aren't setting records here in spite of that nice reliability report from Consumer Reports.
 
What I should do is call Parts and find out how much a Grand Vitara or SX4 alternator or starter costs and compare those numbers to the Subarus and Toyotas and Hondas and Pontiacs.
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Re: [steve_] by norwoodsmn
Nov 05, 2008 (1:18 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 04, 2008 3:46 pm)

I hear ya. Actually we've never owned an auto trannie vehicle in over 30 years in the Canadian wilds. Making the suggestion just acknowledges how I think they've come a long way in the last while. For instance, have to feel an auto '09 Forester would be less of a task vs. rowing it's notchy manual 5 speed around. But it probably loosens up in time... A superior awd system comes with the auto trannie though. But you can get the factory accessory "STI" short throw shift kit for the 5 speed manual for something over $200.00. With their rally background it ought to make quite a difference. Worth a look see. We may still try the auto Forester ourselves just to be sure.
 
If you are interested in an economical 2wd, you owe it to yourselves to check out the base Mazda 3 sport GX 2 liter Forget whatever you might think about its styling, and just get in and drive it first. The state of the art handling dynamics and it's superb 5 speed manual, add up to make it the best deal in class right now with the new 2010 3's on the way before long.
 
But for steep German parts costs?, the brand new Jetta wagon seems like another good option. What, only a couple grand more for the diesel? Sure would be the green choice, but oh those parts.....
 
I like the looks of the Suzuki SX4 but wish they offered a slightly stretched version which would add a bit more rear cargo room, then jack it up like an Outback?, and.... But it ought to be a fine inexpensive awd choice for your winters up there.
 
We're pretty much in the same boat, but as the Sidekick is quickly oxidizing into a pile of red dust, we'll likely keep our 2wd wagon, and... And the jury remains out.
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Re: [norwoodsmn] by steve_ HOST
Nov 05, 2008 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: norwoodsmn (Nov 05, 2008 1:18 am)

Unfortunately the Mazda3 has relatively poor crash test results. When you downsize like that, you really want as many 5 stars as you can get, knowing that those stars just means it tests well against other cars in its class. We're afraid to TD it since we may like it so much it'd cloud our better judgment about getting T-Boned in it.
 
The Grand Vitara gets 4s and 5s (vs the Mazda3's 4s and 3s), plus it's in a bit bigger and heavier class. The SX4 gets 4s plus one 5 for the front side crash.
 
I really like VW interiors and the ride, but I hate paying a premium price for worse reliability. My generalization that all cars are pretty reliable hits a wall when I think of VW. My sister's '00 New Beetle was awful, but even then, she considered a used Passat wagon before going with a Forester. Diesel fumes bother my wife (allergies) so that's a non-starter.
 
Anyone else in here shopping for a new Grand Vitara? Prices are pretty competitive across the board, so why are you leaning towards a Suzuki?
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Re: [steve_] by norwoodsmn
Nov 05, 2008 (4:17 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 05, 2008 9:13 am)

Last re: 3's: Side and side curtain airbags are std. eqpt. for '09, thus addressing the chief prior side impact safety concern.
 
To help kick off yr. suggestion re: the GV, (an apple vs. the "3" orange of course), repeated once more here I've never [before] suggested someone should buy a Suzuki SUV unless you really NEEDED it's capabilities. (The new XL7 is excluded from consideration as it's just a soft roader). If not, (if all that built in go anywhere toughness was not required), in the past there were many better choices. But have to acknowledge I think for '09 with the four cylinder engine, they have now made it a viable, more economical alternative choice worthy of consideration by a potential CRV, RAV4, etc. buyer. For yrs. truly again though, I'm strictly a fan because of those traditional capabilities, (the only reason I'm here a postin'). But still part of that "bargain" is evaluating what sort of reliability you can expect longer term. So how will the '09 GV do..?
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But I join you in continuing to be MOST interested to hear what others have to say, especially someone who has also had a chance to take one for a spin, or has one in the garage now. Hello, come on in....
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Suzuki Issues by 06sgv
Nov 20, 2008 (12:44 pm)
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Hello All,
 
     I have a 06 Suzuki Grand Vitara and have been having issues with it for a while and the dealership tells me there is nothing wrong with it and was hoping maybe someone could shed some light on the situation. Back in May of 07 I was in an auto accident and substained heavy damage to the rear of the vehicle. They ended up having to repair the frame, new sway bars, shocks, whole 9 yards. To this day ever since the accident, when merging into traffic or going around more then a 20 degree turn, my rear end feels like it almost fishtails. It feels to me, from the cabin, that the rear end just sways from side to side. I did notice that when they were doing the alignment after the accident that they were doing the alignment for a 05 Grand Vitara since mine was built in 05 but is an 06 model, which we know in 06 they completly redesigned everything about the GV. Do you think that maybe this could have been what caused the issue? Also, here lately my ESP light has been coming on and staying on for no reason. In the 2 years I have owned the vehicle, I swear it has never come on before. Another thing I notice, whenever a go over a bump or something in the road, my interior lights come, just for a second, then go off and also says my doors are ajar. Any thoughts? I haven't gotten any where with lawyers or dealerships. Thanks for any input.
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Re: Suzuki Issues [06sgv] by norwoodsmn
Nov 26, 2008 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: 06sgv (Nov 20, 2008 12:44 pm)

Hoped some wizard would have stepped up here by now to solve all your probs, but since that has not happened I'll take a stab at some of it. First the (easy?) part: (if there is any easy part?), saw a blog post on a prior gen XL-7 re: interior lights coming on/door ajar. Had something to do with the door contact sensors, and that Suzuki easily fixed that. You didn't say who "They" were. Here in BC Canada, our govt. insurance agency guarantees claim repair work performed by an authorized shop, for as long as you own your vehicle. But what can [you] do...? Since the repair work was a year and half ago, is that outside the warranty period offered by the body shop authorized to do the work by your insurance agency? After all seems you have potentially critical road worthiness issues.
 
Regardless, FIRST to help confirm exactly where you are at now: suck it up and pay an independent alignment shop, (the BEST one you can find!), to check it out. With out having to go into any of your own detail, I'd simply get references from any local HIGH END dealership, (sure, why not: Porsche, or...), and see what shop they recommend to their customers. Re: the '05 specs. I can't imagine ANY alignment shop using prior gen Grand Vitara specs on an all new '06 Grand Vitara, but....
 
Finally, with your own independently paid for alignment check/frame condition? results in hand, if that confirms there are significant repair problems, seems your only recourse would be between yourself and your insurance agent further stepping up on your behalf, and the repair shop. Of course your insurance paid [someone] to have your vehicle restored to factory specs. As a part of your policy coverage perhaps you may have some further benefits available to you if you can prove unsatisfactory repair work has caused the handling problems you are describing.
 
That repair seems the major question mark as the CONSIDERABLE damage to your vehicle also pretty well makes this a case where Suzuki would be off the hook as far as their stepping up in some way. Did you buy it new from Suzuki? If so I think your best other hope there would be to ask your dealership that as a courtesy to you as a customer, you would like to have their District Service rep. give your vehicle a test drive to see if he could replicate/notice the driveabliity symptoms you are describing. Again have your own prior independent alignment shop data in hand too, to help him know what specific symptoms he might want to look for on that road test. They come around every few months to look at outstanding "issues". Sure this falls outside anything they normally do, but if you are a regular customer as a favor they/he [might] agree to do this. If you don't have full confidence in your dealership, again you could look farther afield to find the best one out there, and ask to have their most experienced mechanic take yr. GV out for a test drive to see if he could replicate/feel your driveability issues, then add that info to your repair shop/insurance agency "dossier" while you ponder, (with the help of your insurance agent and/or lawyer?), how best to move forward..
 
Can't speak about the ESP light. Can only speculate like you must be, given the fairly complex structure of the vehicle, if in fact it was repairable in the first place, vs. writing it off. It probably was technically repairable, but to get a 110% guarantee it would all come back together perfectly, seems if I was in your situation I would have wanted THE NATION'S best body shop to have done the work. Cold/no comfort there for you, I know, sorry. Sorry this is all pretty well just general advice. Those are just the rocks I'd start looking under to begin with.
We feel your pain... Let us know how it goes, and Good Luck.

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