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Suzuki Grand Vitara 2006 through 2008

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Re: [norwoodsmn] by bm000092
Nov 03, 2008 (4:59 am)
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Replying to: norwoodsmn (Nov 01, 2008 10:30 pm)

For what it worths, there is a 4 day review of the 09 I4 on Canadian Driver
www.canadiandriver.com/ctc/blog/trucks-suvs/2009-suzuki-grand-vitara.htm
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Re: [bm000092] by steve_ HOST
Nov 03, 2008 (6:38 am)
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Replying to: bm000092 (Nov 03, 2008 4:59 am)

Looks like the moral is to avoid the 4 cylinder and get the six (or develop better driving habits than the reviewer).
 
I was browsing cars over the weekend and went to the web page of the local Suzuki dealer to check out the SX4 Sport. There was a drop down menu for the Grvtr. It took me a minute to figure out what the heck that was.
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Re: [steve_] by norwoodsmn
Nov 04, 2008 (10:56 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 03, 2008 6:38 am)

TD the four. As proffered before, I think goodness-wise it's easily our own CRV [equivalent] engine. One tester said he tried the base JA and liked it, (it has the manual 5 speed and full time AWD), but that brief impression was the extent of "the detail" with emphasis on a near loaded auto four.
 
I'd like to see a test that explored the extent of what the base GV, (the Forester fighter), JA AWD version could do in [reasonably] demanding conditions. That info is out there now on the base '09 5speed Forester, as it was "pressed" in California on Catalina Island where it did well on rough goat tracks. But again my Forester TD recently suggested "you wouldn't want to go there" in the Sube on a regular basis, with, (on the other hand), it likely being OK(er) in a much tougher base '09 Grand Vitara. Would like to see a head to head between these two base models. A potentially valuable marketing ploy [Suzuki?] Especially since the Forester can now almost be considered mainstream with it's up market redesign for '09? Go for it.
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Re: [norwoodsmn] by steve_ HOST
Nov 04, 2008 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: norwoodsmn (Nov 04, 2008 10:56 am)

The 4 is only available in AWD in the US and FWD is fine for us (although I've been trying to talk my wife into looking at a Forester too, but I'm not gaining much traction there either). The real world mpg reports are still pretty good on the 4 with the MT.
 
But we digress...
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Re: [steve_] by norwoodsmn
Nov 04, 2008 (1:54 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 04, 2008 12:08 pm)

Are we digressing? I don't think so only because TDing the pair directly answers the question of how good the [now] truly "new GV" is, and isn't that what most everyone here has to be wondering? As "we've" done both now, incidentally the wife agrees it's advantage Suzuki. It's really necessary to take yr. better half out there for spin(s) Steve, to bring ones perspective right up to date owing to all the new developments [for both] for '09.
 
Maybe I'm off here?, but further I see the two as chief competitors against one another for active recreational users who potentially can make do without the low range gears.
 
Think the 2wd GV model is std. base for '09 in the US, with AWD, (but no low range), optional for their four cylinder? At least AWD is std. eqpt. on our base JA here in The Great White North. Still nothing on the US site, but spending time to get it all working right first, might not be a bad idea.....
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Re: [norwoodsmn] by steve_ HOST
Nov 04, 2008 (1:58 pm)
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Replying to: norwoodsmn (Nov 04, 2008 1:54 pm)

Yeah, but I have a Subaru, and I'm of the mindset that the Forester and Outback are wagons.
 
The guy next door has a Grand Vitara (which he likes very much btw), but it looks more like a SUV to me and my wife really doesn't want anything that looks remotely like an SUV. I've had no luck with my Forester hints, much less something more rugged looking, and she flat turned down a test drive after just sitting in a mild CR-V. So far she's liking the Scion xD the best. That's my SX4 digression in here, since it seems more directly comparable to the xD than the GV.
 
But your point is well taken. I'll try to sneak both of them on her list.
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Re: [steve_] by norwoodsmn
Nov 04, 2008 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 04, 2008 1:58 pm)

Ah, real time blogging with the host, cool.....
 
The real Beauty of the Beast is that while it may look like a politically incorrect SUV?, (but it's the same size as a CRV, right?), advise her that the '09 2.4 liter:
 
1.) Has attended AA meetings with it's 2.7 liter cousin, and thus has not acquired it's drinking problem.
   
2.) It no longer drives as much "like one" in the handling department, and in fact is a real pleasure to drive. She'd love an auto box one, I'm sure.
 
On station wagons, right, but the additional space in the "a bit bigger" GV would be a real blessing. But that Forester has a mini "cavern" back there too.
 
If it's more car like though, I hear her. The security of AWD is sure a blessing though in either the GV or Forester, as you well know. We encouraged my dad to buy a new Outback a few years ago for safety reasons. Happy shopping.
 
PS: gotcha on our digression. But: my son would love to have the Scion coupe. We finally get Scions here in Canada next year. JUST SAW this Toyota brand is now considered to have the best RELIABILITY in the biz. Impressive. Again, the "R" word would be a factor to have to consider in the purchase of either the mostly all new '09 Forester, or GV. But we shall digress no more, (maybe)...
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Re: [norwoodsmn] by steve_ HOST
Nov 04, 2008 (3:46 pm)
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Replying to: norwoodsmn (Nov 04, 2008 2:40 pm)

She'd love an auto box one, I'm sure.
 
It's hard to say what a deal killer would be, but an automatic would be right up there with black paint. We both miss having a stick shift.
 
We will keep either the wagon or minivan, so we'd like this car to be smaller (ergo her immediate nixing of the CR-V). So the Grand Vitara probably won't get far on her list.
 
We owned mostly FWD cars in Anchorage for 20 winters and like them fine, especially since they tend to get better mpg than AWD/4WD flavors. There are times when it's nice though.
 
Reliability is a nice plus, but most all cars are pretty reliable these days. Scions sales were slumping before the recent economic crash and still aren't setting records here in spite of that nice reliability report from Consumer Reports.
 
What I should do is call Parts and find out how much a Grand Vitara or SX4 alternator or starter costs and compare those numbers to the Subarus and Toyotas and Hondas and Pontiacs.
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Re: [steve_] by norwoodsmn
Nov 05, 2008 (1:18 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 04, 2008 3:46 pm)

I hear ya. Actually we've never owned an auto trannie vehicle in over 30 years in the Canadian wilds. Making the suggestion just acknowledges how I think they've come a long way in the last while. For instance, have to feel an auto '09 Forester would be less of a task vs. rowing it's notchy manual 5 speed around. But it probably loosens up in time... A superior awd system comes with the auto trannie though. But you can get the factory accessory "STI" short throw shift kit for the 5 speed manual for something over $200.00. With their rally background it ought to make quite a difference. Worth a look see. We may still try the auto Forester ourselves just to be sure.
 
If you are interested in an economical 2wd, you owe it to yourselves to check out the base Mazda 3 sport GX 2 liter Forget whatever you might think about its styling, and just get in and drive it first. The state of the art handling dynamics and it's superb 5 speed manual, add up to make it the best deal in class right now with the new 2010 3's on the way before long.
 
But for steep German parts costs?, the brand new Jetta wagon seems like another good option. What, only a couple grand more for the diesel? Sure would be the green choice, but oh those parts.....
 
I like the looks of the Suzuki SX4 but wish they offered a slightly stretched version which would add a bit more rear cargo room, then jack it up like an Outback?, and.... But it ought to be a fine inexpensive awd choice for your winters up there.
 
We're pretty much in the same boat, but as the Sidekick is quickly oxidizing into a pile of red dust, we'll likely keep our 2wd wagon, and... And the jury remains out.
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Re: [norwoodsmn] by steve_ HOST
Nov 05, 2008 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: norwoodsmn (Nov 05, 2008 1:18 am)

Unfortunately the Mazda3 has relatively poor crash test results. When you downsize like that, you really want as many 5 stars as you can get, knowing that those stars just means it tests well against other cars in its class. We're afraid to TD it since we may like it so much it'd cloud our better judgment about getting T-Boned in it.
 
The Grand Vitara gets 4s and 5s (vs the Mazda3's 4s and 3s), plus it's in a bit bigger and heavier class. The SX4 gets 4s plus one 5 for the front side crash.
 
I really like VW interiors and the ride, but I hate paying a premium price for worse reliability. My generalization that all cars are pretty reliable hits a wall when I think of VW. My sister's '00 New Beetle was awful, but even then, she considered a used Passat wagon before going with a Forester. Diesel fumes bother my wife (allergies) so that's a non-starter.
 
Anyone else in here shopping for a new Grand Vitara? Prices are pretty competitive across the board, so why are you leaning towards a Suzuki?

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