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Re: 2.7 is old tech [xostnot] by norwoodsmn
Apr 27, 2006 (4:25 pm)
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Replying to: xostnot (Apr 26, 2006 9:12 pm)

Hi again xostnot. Really just a quick postcript here to my prior one this date. You'll note my ref. to the new XL-7's 3.6 mill getting identical city highway mileage as does the new GV with it's OLD 2.7. Ya, I don't know if those XL-7 figures are with the awd option, probably not. But on the other hand I've noted very little difference, interestingly, in the 2wd new GV 2.7 mileage figures posted for US models, so equipped. So....
 
Well, of course we all remember our high school physics. So if they put a new similarly fuel effecient but smaller 3.2 in the "new" GV, right away just because of it's smaller displacement you'd expect to get better mileage than the 3.6 in the new XL-7. But then factor in that the "new" GV must weigh more than a fair bit less than the new Suzuki Equinox?, (ooops, XL-7, but it IS a "fixed?" Equinox), in fact. Sooo, who knows, knocking on the door ofl 28mpg? Then you would have your new cake, and be able to well savor the tase upon consuming it, eh?
 
ps: Try the Broken Islands in Pacific Rim Park, mightyfine there too.
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Re: More power for GV [norwoodsmn] by budman3
Apr 27, 2006 (5:48 pm)
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Replying to: norwoodsmn (Apr 27, 2006 3:34 pm)

Feel free to wait and see and wait some more. Who cares? Don't buy it. Why keep slamming it here? The GV has some issues but why dwell on it? I bet you haven't bought a computer yet, either. Still waiting for that perfect high performance trouble free pc? Way too much thought process here and long letters of nothing.
The GV works for us and it has been trouble free. Not everyone needs tons of hp.
Would you buy a GV if it had a bigger motor and better mileage? You JUST read about the XL7 and a bigger motor and better mileage? Welcome to old news.
I think we should all get together and have some of that cake.
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Re: More power for GV [budman3] by bearsgv
Apr 27, 2006 (6:09 pm)
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Replying to: budman3 (Apr 27, 2006 5:48 pm)

Well said budman3.
When I was buying the GV, it didn't take me long to choose the smaller engine, 2.0 litre 4 cylinder GV instead of the 2.7 V6. Unfortunately the diesel engine was not available, otherwise I would have opted for the diesel engine.
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Re: yestertech [dclark2] by xostnot
Apr 27, 2006 (10:29 pm)
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Replying to: dclark2 (Apr 27, 2006 7:42 am)

Weight does exact a penalty when climbing or accelerating. When up to speed, on a flat road, it has no effect other than a slight cost in friction in the rotating parts. I'm sorry if you don't believe this, but it's basic physics. But don't worry, you have plenty of company. Note that the highway mileage test simulates constant speed on a flat road. Weight is reduced because it costs energy to raise or speed up a vehicle. So weight reductions are mostly beneficial for city use. But for flat, constant speed highway running, it has insignificant effect. Believe it or not.
 
The factory for the new larger engines is proof Suzuki is "forced" to go along with the North American marketing/ego horsepower race. I could rephrase your comments to point out that the GV is sold successfully with smaller engines than the 2.7 in most parts of the world. The horsepower race is not sustainable. Have you not checked traffic congestion or the price of gas lately?
 
You already can't drive nearly as fast as our vehicles are capable of going. So you mean "sporty" either in smugly knowing you have "more under the hood" than the next person, or can accelerate faster. So how fast is fast enough? Do you need AAA fueler acceleration to think it's adequate? F1 power to weight ratios to fetch groceries?
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Re: 2.7 is old tech [norwoodsmn] by xostnot
Apr 27, 2006 (10:32 pm)
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Replying to: norwoodsmn (Apr 27, 2006 4:25 pm)

It should be kept in mind that the stubbier GV body is less streamlined at highway speeds, all else being equal. So it has an inherent penalty compared to the XL7, in addition to the full-time AWD.
 
(We've canoed three times in the BGI. World class, and certainly not the preserve of the 'yakkers. We've also been to Vargas Island, Meares Island and the Deer Group. The latter in the month of November, with a kid in the canoe. Good judgement required.)
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Re: Tensioners, award, and first drive [xostnot] by whyster
Apr 28, 2006 (4:14 pm)
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Replying to: xostnot (Mar 01, 2006 9:49 pm)

Hello xostnot,
 
I just starting reading some older posts and I appreciated your list. Lots of things I did not know. Maybe I should consider the Premium model instead of the Luxury because of the leather situation.
 
Also, what keeps some one from tampering with your gas or spare tire cover? A locking gas cap or other lock?
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Re: Tensioners, award, and first drive [whyster] by budman3
Apr 28, 2006 (5:14 pm)
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Replying to: whyster (Apr 28, 2006 4:14 pm)

Whyster, I know the question wasn't directed to me, but I put a small lock on the latch of the spare tire cover. It would only take seconds for someone to steal that.
I think Suzuki makes a locking gas cap. Anything to make money after the sale. There is a website with Suzuki items for less money but my wife took the laptop today and it's in my favorites.I'll post it later.
xostnot had a very extensive list. I hope he accepted my apologies for critisizing it. It was more thorough than anything I would have done and I'm sure it helped out many people. Don't get discouraged on the leather. The Luxury has so much more to offer for a little more money. We haven't had any issues with the leather although the little brown stains have us both puzzled.
Sorry for intervening. xostnot will be here, too.
I also agree with his mpg, weight, and acceleration views. Maybe I'll also do a city mpg test, but I'm usually heavy on the accelerating part.
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Re: Tensioners, award, and first drive [budman3] by xostnot
Apr 28, 2006 (8:42 pm)
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Replying to: budman3 (Apr 28, 2006 5:14 pm)

Thanks for the acknowledgement, budman3. I don't mind others answering questions for me - less for me to do. As for my list, I have to admit I'd change a few things now that I've had some time with the GV, but I can't edit the list.
 
I haven't owned a car with leather seats before, so I don't know what to expect of them. I actually don't see how they could not stretch over time - just the nature of the material. However, if they're not supposed to stretch, and some of ours don't, then it's reasonable for me to expect them to be right.
 
I have to get around to taking a picture and posting so people can see what degree of bagginess I'm talking about. If I'd been able to get fabric seats in an attractive color with the low range, I certainly would not have gotten the leather. Because I basically don't like leather seats. However, I can see how the smell could become addictive (or repulsive).
 
The GV spec in many countries has a remote filler release, so you don't need a lock. But not the Canada/US version. The cap specified for the older GV is the same as for the '06, in case your vendor has no listing for the '06. Not even the dealer had a code for it. Suzuki wants $30cdn for them, and it looks like better quality than the $10 ones at places like Canadian Tire. It better be better. And don't let them charge you a $20 installation fee to put it on, like they did to me. (Refunded on protest.)
 
I also put a little padlock on the spare tire cover. The problem is that the lock rattles around, and it's a tough life for a small lock back there. Someone anchored theirs with stick-on velcro tabs, but so far I haven't gotten my lock to fold anywhere where it will stick.
 
If you need a locking gas cap and tire cover lock, you likely also need wheel lock nuts, and an alarm system. With the locks on the roof rack crossbars, we have an awful lot of locks on this thing. I stuck velcro on the keys for the various locks, and they stick on a patch I stuck under the front center armrest.
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Re: Tensioners, award, and first drive [xostnot] by budman3
Apr 29, 2006 (5:42 am)
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Replying to: xostnot (Apr 28, 2006 8:42 pm)

Try; suzuki.autowebaccessories.com They have genuine Suzuki parts for alot less money. The locking gas cap is only $9.57US
xostnot, I would be upset over baggy leather, too. What has the dealer said? Our 105# doberman gives the back seats a workout and still no trouble.
For the spare tire cover, I also looked at the trailer tongue locks. They're on the same principle as receiver locks for your hitch. They may be a little thicker than the hole in the latch, so it might have to be drilled out.
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Re: yestertech [xostnot] by dclark2
Apr 29, 2006 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: xostnot (Apr 27, 2006 10:29 pm)

"The factory for the new larger engines is proof Suzuki is "forced" to go along with the North American marketing/ego horsepower race. I could rephrase your comments to point out that the GV is sold successfully with smaller engines than the 2.7 in most parts of the world. The horsepower race is not sustainable. Have you not checked traffic congestion or the price of gas lately?"
 
That's a huge load! Did you know, did you, that hp has been going up for automobiles since they first were invented? Did you? There was this time in the 60's where they went up, then in the 70's emissions took a toll, In the 80's they started going up and they will are. Did you know that? This is called "progress". Auto manufactors have engineering departments that (get this!) try to design engines that make more power while using less fuel. Believe it or not, that's what customers want. Now, they have these managers in the company who have discovered that if you don't make a product that can compete with the competition, people won't buy it.
 What goes on in the rest of the world really doesn't matter. If they are happy with a 2.0 in Zimbabwe or whatever, great. I bet they don't have to worry about passing on a 75 mph interstate, or spilling jumbo slurpies on the leather upholstery.
Also, just because an engine is larger doesn't mean that it will get less mpg! My '96 350' V8 powered Chevy Impala SS gets 25 mpg on the highway, whereas my old 2.6 four cylinder K-car only got 24mpg. My '06 GTO (with 400hp!) got 26 mpg on my recent trip in CA. Gee, despite having more than triple the hp of my old k car, it got better mpg! It is called p-r-o-g-r-e-s-s!!!
 
"The GM designed motors are all push-rod motors that are all flash with alot of HP and torque to wow people, but are very unreliable motors, the exact reason why people are not buying GM cars and GM is shedding off alot of sub brands like Suzuki, Isuzu and Subaru. I say look for a new XL7 motor in the '08 XL7 and more HP in the GV from Suzuki in '08."
That is another ignorant statement- where should I begin? Ok, Suzuki, Subaru and Isuzu are not "subrands" of GM! GM has owned a stake in them and has partnered with them, but that is it. GM pushrod motors are junk? Gee, I guess you better explain how all those LT1/LS1 motors managed to give 100's of thousands of miles! Also, the new 3.6 motor is NOT a pushrod design! It is dual overhead cam engine with variable timing.It has already proven itself in the Caddy CTV and is a fine motor.Oh yeah, about your Verona- you think you are driving a Suzuki... you are wrong! You are driving a Daewoo with a Suzuki badge glued on. Whatever beefs you have , take it up to the people over at daewoo who designed it.
It'll give MORE power, MORE mpg and LESS noise. Only someone with their head in the ground would not welcome those.

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