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447 messages, Last post on May 03, 2007 at 2:41 PM
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Replying to: stroudman (May 13, 2005 12:21 pm) |
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Replying to: stroudman (May 13, 2005 8:40 am) There are dozens going through the auctions lately. Mostly all company owned cars, demos, turnbacks and such. Some W12s with the 4-seater package next week! I hope to see a lot more on the street soon. After that, VW plans on building up sales gradually. No more big incentives. Maybe a thousand new sales this year. So buy time is now to save big! But hey, the car is a great value new. Just over my budget. Tomorrow is going to be a Saturday drive. Can't wait. Now, back to reading the manual... |
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Replying to: paldi (May 12, 2005 6:15 pm) congrats on your Phaeton purchase. i too have grown weary of the jdpower and consumer report afflicted and addicted. when it comes to exciting, engaging, and attractive luxury sedans nobody comes close to the Europeans. |
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Replying to: merc1 (May 12, 2005 10:14 pm) |
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Replying to: paldi (May 14, 2005 7:40 am) Yep rear mounted for better weight distribution, but that isn't the problem the most writers have with it. The Maser's tranny is one of the SMG/F1 type deals in which the clutch is actuated by a computer instead of your left foot. This is fine for people who like to use the shift pedals on the steering wheel, but in automatic mode it doesn't come anywhere near the smoothness of a traditional automatic. This what everyone complains about during a test drive. Then again this isn't a car for the average luxury car buyer either. There is supposed to be a V12 version of the Quattroporte sometime next year with a proper automatic as well as a manual/F1 per the current rumor mill. We'll see. I've noticed that in recent months there are about 4-5 Quattroporte owners on the boad that post regularly, maybe we can get them to share there experiences here. Its a rare and special car that won't appeal to most, only that true enthusiast. M |
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Replying to: merc1 (May 14, 2005 9:16 am)
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Replying to: stroudman (May 14, 2005 9:33 am) M
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Replying to: merc1 (May 14, 2005 9:39 am) |
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Replying to: paldi (May 14, 2005 7:40 am) The gear box mount in the rear does contribute to the QP's rear weighted weight distribution which helps the car driver much smaller than it is and has a really pleasing turn in an other handling characteristics.
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Replying to: merc1 (May 14, 2005 9:16 am) But here is the difference: The QP calls to be played with. Whispers to me at night to come out and play - to see what kind of experience we might create together this time. Other wonderful cars I've had, particularly the Germans ones, wait in the garage for me to ask something from it; then it delivers with discipline, predictability and style. QPs are for luxury sedan buyers looking for an experience. It does have some annoyances, to be sure. The Navigation system sucks big time. The 4K massaging seats don't really massage. Given that its a great road trip car it cold use another cup holder. The Consule refrigerator/warmer is GIPE (Good Idea, Poor Execution). But the car has style, sex appeal and just begged to be driven (usually fast). |
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