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High-End European Luxury Sedans
448 messages, Last post on May 03, 2007 at 3:41 PM
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What is this discussion about? Jaguar XJ-Series, Maserati Quattroporte, Volkswagen Phaeton, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, BMW 7 Series, Audi A8, Sedan
#443 of 448 Re: 745i vs S500 vs CLS500 [eric312] by esf
Mar 07, 2007 (9:03 pm)
Replying to: eric312 (Feb 07, 2007 8:30 pm)
Here you go. I can give you my own personal buyer's guide... 745i-
Pros: well-built, best-in-class handling, controversial styling
Cons: anti-ergonomic controls (not just iDrive- check the seat controls), not the most powerful big sedan out there, controversial styling
S500-
Pros: elegant inside and out, good torque, prestige
Cons: everyone has one, some materials on the inside are surprisingly cheap, and it was probably the least-powerful $90K car on the market back in 2005
CLS500-
Pros: gorgeous inside and out, S500's engine in a smaller package
Cons: only comes with four seats, rear doors are terrible for entry/exit, overpriced for an E-Class reskin
They're all nice cars, but it depends on your priorities. 7 Series is a bit more cold and business-like, but very competent. S-Class is more feminine and smooth, but could use a nicer interior (S550's interior is a huge improvement in every area). CLS is not practical by any means, but it sacrifices that for great style.
If I were in your position, I'd add the Audi A8L to my short list. It has...
Pros: standard AWD, best-in-class engine from '03-'05, class-leading interior design/space/materials, elegant exterior
Cons: lacks S-Class's prestige, handling isn't quite as good as BMW's but better than S-Class
Or, you could even consider a great deal on an '06 LS430 before Lexus dealers only have LS460s. If you don't care about performance.
Just my two cents.
'06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX330
#444 of 448 Re: Phaeton with Bentley GT wheels [paldi] by murphdog1
May 03, 2007 (3:41 pm)
Replying to: paldi (Nov 25, 2006 8:57 am)
Where did you get the grill and GT rims? My lease is up in the fall, any news from anyone who got VW to negotiate and move down on the residuals that were part of the 04 lease program when everything was subvented $10K. I am seeing $29K-$34K for 04's with under 35K miles. I love this car so much, I hope they wheel and deal so I can buy it outright, but the current residuals are north of $40K.
BTW, my dealer today told me that they are going to start importing the short wheelbase Phaeton for 2008.
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