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What is this discussion about? Jaguar XJ-Series, Maserati Quattroporte, Volkswagen Phaeton, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, BMW 7 Series, Audi A8, Sedan

#403 of 447 Re: S8 [designman] by merc1 Dec 18, 2005 (10:51 pm)
Replying to: designman (Dec 16, 2005 12:34 pm) Oops I read that wrong. I didn't see that you were merely presenting our previous conversation.   M Replies to this message: anthonyp (Dec 19, 2005 1:00 pm) merc1 (Dec 19, 2005 11:54 pm)
#404 of 447 Jaguar by merc1 Dec 18, 2005 (10:55 pm)
I forgot, "Gorgeous" is Jaguar's line isn't it?       Does it apply? You be the judge.   M
#405 of 447 Re: S8 [merc1] by anthonyp Dec 19, 2005 (1:00 pm)
Replying to: merc1 (Dec 18, 2005 10:51 pm) The Masseratti(sp) is a great looking car, but apparently there are some nusances to be worked out, according to some owners...I wonder how the sales of it compare to the Audi w12....Tony Replies to this message: merc1 (Dec 19, 2005 11:54 pm)
#406 of 447 Re: Gorgeous [merc1] by lovemyclk Dec 19, 2005 (2:56 pm)
Replying to: merc1 (Dec 18, 2005 10:19 pm) I think the CLS55 is an obvious ommission from the Maser competitor list... has a much more distinct and custom-coach feel than the more "mainstream" competitors. Believe the M5 leans so much more toward the sport side of the equation, than it won't be cross-shopped (as much) against the Maser like the stated competitors + the CLS55! Replies to this message: merc1 (Dec 19, 2005 11:59 pm) lovemyclk (Dec 21, 2005 7:04 am) merc1 (Dec 22, 2005 12:55 am)
#407 of 447 Re: S8 [anthonyp] by merc1 Dec 19, 2005 (11:54 pm)
Replying to: anthonyp (Dec 19, 2005 1:00 pm) Well unless something has changed, the A8 W12 is a 150-200 unit-per-year car here in the U.S. I've only seen one since it came out.   M
#408 of 447 Re: Gorgeous [lovemyclk] by merc1 Dec 19, 2005 (11:59 pm)
Replying to: lovemyclk (Dec 19, 2005 2:56 pm) Actually I think the M5 is a direct competitor to the Quattroporte also because they both have SMG-style trannies and both are thoroughbred sports sedans that make no apologies.   It is quite easy to beat the cars Maserati mentioned on dynamics and sheer driving excitement, but it is a lot harder to do that to the CLS55 and especially the M5.   Would have seemed hard to believe a few years ago, but the Cadillac STS-V actually competes in this league. Audi has an interesting pair of competitors too for the Quattroporte, the already announced S8 and upcoming S6/RS6.   What a wonderful time to be a high-end sports sedan buyer!   M Replies to this message: lovemyclk (Dec 21, 2005 7:04 am) merc1 (Dec 22, 2005 12:55 am)
#409 of 447 S8 Video by merc1 Dec 21, 2005 (2:28 am)
S8 In Action   Warning: It is in German, but the engine sounds aren't. The test driver's skill is pretty awesome too.   M
#410 of 447 Re: Gorgeous [merc1] by lovemyclk Dec 21, 2005 (7:04 am)
Replying to: merc1 (Dec 19, 2005 11:59 pm) Well, I agree to a point... still believe the M5 is a much more finely tuned performance machine, where the Maser makes more of a fashion statement to go with a still-superb performance capability. Saw 2 new M5's at my dealer recently and was very impressed - was not able to drive them, though.   The Caddy does "compete", but has some ground to cover to reach 1st place. Not the biggest fan of the STS design, but would still take one in a NY minute. Kudo's to Caddy for getting in the game in a big way... Replies to this message: merc1 (Dec 22, 2005 12:55 am)
#411 of 447 Re: Gorgeous [lovemyclk] by merc1 Dec 22, 2005 (12:55 am)
Replying to: lovemyclk (Dec 21, 2005 7:04 am) The M5 may very well be, but I won't likely get the chance to drive either so....I'll have to take your word on this one.   Oh I agree about the STS-V. Automobile says it can't compete with the Germans, and MT put the CLS55 over the STS-V, but C&D put the STS-V over the CLS55, mainly because of the price and better back seat.   M
#412 of 447 Real High-End European Luxury by merc1 Dec 22, 2005 (12:55 am)
Maybach 62   M Replies to this message: garyh1 (Dec 22, 2005 7:53 am) paldi (Dec 22, 2005 8:34 pm) merc1 (Dec 22, 2005 9:16 pm) merc1 (Dec 22, 2005 9:15 pm) blckislandguy (Dec 27, 2005 7:43 pm)

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