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What is this discussion about? Jaguar XJ-Series, Maserati Quattroporte, Volkswagen Phaeton, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, BMW 7 Series, Audi A8, Sedan

#371 of 447 Re: Good topic! [designman] by kbrookings Nov 29, 2005 (6:48 am)
Replying to: designman (Nov 29, 2005 5:46 am) That was my comment quoted above. No misprint; but it was the whole electronics unit that the CD player lives in, the dealer, F/M of Orange County, showed me the price book. Still seemed rediculously high. At 28K miles now I've had no problems at all except the CD drive, no other costs other than maintenance and tires. This is definitly a car that you like better over time. I moved to his car from an M-5. Loved the M-5 and have had many wonderful BMWs and Mercs plus a Ferrari, Jag and Porsche in my life. For me, no comparision; the QP is the coolest car I've ever owned, most compelling car to drive. Ken Replies to this message: designman (Nov 29, 2005 7:52 am) merc1 (Nov 29, 2005 8:15 am)
#372 of 447 Re: Good topic! [kbrookings] by designman Nov 29, 2005 (7:52 am)
Replying to: kbrookings (Nov 29, 2005 6:48 am) Ken... Anyone would find the cost of the CD-Drive repair curious and outrageous. However, that is not what impressed me. It's your spirit of adventure, the stuff that interesting biographies are made of. And you were quite eloquent in the way you expressed yourself.
#373 of 447 Re: Good topic! [kbrookings] by merc1 Nov 29, 2005 (8:15 am)
Replying to: kbrookings (Nov 29, 2005 6:48 am) I moved to his car from an M-5. Loved the M-5 and have had many wonderful BMWs and Mercs plus a Ferrari, Jag and Porsche in my life. For me, no comparision; the QP is the coolest car I've ever owned, most compelling car to drive.   That right there says it all I think. What color is your car inside/out? Did you buy a car already on the ground or did you special order? I was amazed at all the different color leathers and woods to choose from when I got a chance to go inside the Maser stand at the Chicago autoshow this year.   With all the talk about German cars and their repair expenses I guess I forgot that Italian cars are even more pricey in that area.   The Quattroporte is really just a 4-door Ferrari so I guess that type of price is expected.   M
#374 of 447 Re: Good topic! by kbrookings Nov 29, 2005 (9:03 am)
gosh designman, thanks for the nice comment. Merc1, I went to the factory to order it, had it delivered through Ron Tonkin Gran Turismo in Portland. I ordered in in June of 2004 and took delivery in November 2004. There weren't any/enough in the States then and I just couldn't visualize all the colors and choices, so went to the factory to see a bunch of them; great trip all the way around.   Mine is Burgundy (Bordeaux Pontevecchio), sport package and I had the wheels chromed. Interior is Ivory with burgandy piping, rosewood with inlays. Interesting: I NEVER would have chosen the burgandy from the color samples or the web site; looked like some kind of dull red. Gotta see these things in person I guess to make the best choices. Replies to this message: merc1 (Nov 29, 2005 9:26 pm) paldi (Dec 04, 2005 6:41 pm) merc1 (Dec 04, 2005 9:30 pm) and 1 more...
#375 of 447 Re: Good topic! [kbrookings] by merc1 Nov 29, 2005 (9:26 pm)
Replying to: kbrookings (Nov 29, 2005 9:03 am) Now thats what I call being serious about a car! That color combo sounds stunning. Well keep us posted on your experience.   M Replies to this message: paldi (Dec 04, 2005 6:41 pm) merc1 (Dec 04, 2005 9:30 pm) paldi (Dec 05, 2005 11:55 am)
#376 of 447 That color, on a Phaeton - with Bentley wheels! by paldi Dec 04, 2005 (6:41 pm)
Replying to: merc1 (Nov 29, 2005 9:26 pm)   I've just ordered a set of these wheels. Can't wait to see them for real. This is a photoshop. Replies to this message: merc1 (Dec 04, 2005 9:30 pm) paldi (Dec 05, 2005 11:55 am)
#377 of 447 Re: That color, on a Phaeton - with Bentley wheels! [paldi] by merc1 Dec 04, 2005 (9:30 pm)
Replying to: paldi (Dec 04, 2005 6:41 pm) They actually look like original equipment wheels. They look great. Dare I ask how much they cost?   M Replies to this message: paldi (Dec 05, 2005 11:55 am)
#378 of 447 Re: That color, on a Phaeton - with Bentley wheels! [merc1] by paldi Dec 05, 2005 (11:55 am)
Replying to: merc1 (Dec 04, 2005 9:30 pm) Prices vary depending upon motivation of the seller. If a set of "take-offs" from a new Bentley GT is what you are looking for, the price of the set of 4 wheels & tires can be from $1,500 to nearly $4,000.   I believe the wheels are about $600 each from Bentley including the logo center caps, plus $75.00 for each TPMS sensor. The 275 40 19 Pirelli PZero tires go for about $250 - $300 each. Then you need to pay for balancing and mounting. Michelin Pilots cost a bit more.
#379 of 447 A8 4.2 Vs 750 Vs S500 by vchiu Dec 06, 2005 (6:49 am)
It may be interesting to look how the high-end big three are seen at home :   http://www.autobild.de/test/neuwagen/artikel.php?artikel_id=10076   "Meeting of the German Deluxe Cruisers" (Sorry, nor German nor English are my native tongue)   Those who can't read German may try babelfish web page translation.   In short, the new S500 Takes the lead, if financial issues are not being considered. Otherwise, the A8 takes the Overall lead. The BMW, although the most performant, comes third. Low resale value + expensive cost of repair being the key issues   Very interesting article. They should have added the XJ8 4.2. This car worths much more Replies to this message: merc1 (Dec 06, 2005 11:04 pm) designman (Dec 07, 2005 4:42 am) merc1 (Dec 07, 2005 6:01 am) vchiu (Dec 07, 2005 5:57 am) merc1 (Dec 07, 2005 6:03 am) pat (Dec 07, 2005 9:46 am)
#380 of 447 audi by anthonyp Dec 06, 2005 (1:57 pm)
I do not know from experience about the new S, but I can recomend the A8 with the sports suspension, as a great driving and so far ownership experience...I think everyone wants more horsepower on paper, but the engine and handling and feel leave nothing to be desired Tony

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