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What is this discussion about? Jaguar XJ-Series, Maserati Quattroporte, Volkswagen Phaeton, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, BMW 7 Series, Audi A8, Sedan


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Re: Good topic! [merc1] by designman
Nov 29, 2005 (4:19 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Nov 28, 2005 9:30 pm)

Those guys in the Quattroporte thread seem as happy as clams with little concern for issues. It's funny how they just HAVE to have the car. They're a rare breed and this car appears to hit a sweet spot. The following post caught my attention. I love the second paragraph:
 
The car is not as "limo-like" for your passengers as M-B, Jag, BMW or Audi. The luxury is certainly there but the "performance-orientation" is for the driver more than the passenger. However, you will learn to drive it more smoothly after some miles and I think it is very comfortable and luxurious for passengers; and most seem pretty thrilled and overwhelmed by the car.
  
Regarding resale value; I have no idea. I didn't buy mine with any expectation except having an adventure. I plan to put a quick 50K miles on it and sell it, take whatever hit might be involved and start over. First year car, unknown reliability, unknown resale value, terrible gas mileage, etc; just nothing practical about this thing. Repairs will be expensive after warranty, that's for sure. I had a failed cd player replaced under warranty but the part would have been $11,700, according to the dealer!)
  
But I enjoy this car much more than any BMW or M-B I've owned. Can't wait for any excuse to take a road trip.
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Re: Good topic! [designman] by merc1
Nov 29, 2005 (5:00 am)
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Replying to: designman (Nov 29, 2005 4:19 am)

That has to be a misprint about a part for a CD player costing 11K!
 
I'm not surprised about the "must have" factor with a car like the Quattroporte. It is just the car for folks who really love cars and have some serious money to risk it for a car they find appealing beyond all logic. The engine, styling and mystique behind it are so strong, well at least to people who truly love cars.
 
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Re: Good topic! [merc1] by designman
Nov 29, 2005 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Nov 29, 2005 5:00 am)

That has to be a misprint about a part for a CD player costing 11K!
 
Indeed!
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Re: Good topic! [designman] by kbrookings
Nov 29, 2005 (6:48 am)
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Replying to: designman (Nov 29, 2005 5:46 am)

That was my comment quoted above. No misprint; but it was the whole electronics unit that the CD player lives in, the dealer, F/M of Orange County, showed me the price book. Still seemed rediculously high. At 28K miles now I've had no problems at all except the CD drive, no other costs other than maintenance and tires. This is definitly a car that you like better over time. I moved to his car from an M-5. Loved the M-5 and have had many wonderful BMWs and Mercs plus a Ferrari, Jag and Porsche in my life. For me, no comparision; the QP is the coolest car I've ever owned, most compelling car to drive.
Ken
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Re: Good topic! [kbrookings] by designman
Nov 29, 2005 (7:52 am)
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Replying to: kbrookings (Nov 29, 2005 6:48 am)

Ken... Anyone would find the cost of the CD-Drive repair curious and outrageous. However, that is not what impressed me. It's your spirit of adventure, the stuff that interesting biographies are made of. And you were quite eloquent in the way you expressed yourself.
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Re: Good topic! [kbrookings] by merc1
Nov 29, 2005 (8:15 am)
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Replying to: kbrookings (Nov 29, 2005 6:48 am)

I moved to his car from an M-5. Loved the M-5 and have had many wonderful BMWs and Mercs plus a Ferrari, Jag and Porsche in my life. For me, no comparision; the QP is the coolest car I've ever owned, most compelling car to drive.
 
That right there says it all I think. What color is your car inside/out? Did you buy a car already on the ground or did you special order? I was amazed at all the different color leathers and woods to choose from when I got a chance to go inside the Maser stand at the Chicago autoshow this year.
 
With all the talk about German cars and their repair expenses I guess I forgot that Italian cars are even more pricey in that area.
 
The Quattroporte is really just a 4-door Ferrari so I guess that type of price is expected.
 
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Re: Good topic! by kbrookings
Nov 29, 2005 (9:03 am)
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gosh designman, thanks for the nice comment.
Merc1, I went to the factory to order it, had it delivered through Ron Tonkin Gran Turismo in Portland. I ordered in in June of 2004 and took delivery in November 2004. There weren't any/enough in the States then and I just couldn't visualize all the colors and choices, so went to the factory to see a bunch of them; great trip all the way around.
 
Mine is Burgundy (Bordeaux Pontevecchio), sport package and I had the wheels chromed. Interior is Ivory with burgandy piping, rosewood with inlays. Interesting: I NEVER would have chosen the burgandy from the color samples or the web site; looked like some kind of dull red. Gotta see these things in person I guess to make the best choices.
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Re: Good topic! [kbrookings] by merc1
Nov 29, 2005 (9:26 pm)
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Replying to: kbrookings (Nov 29, 2005 9:03 am)

Now thats what I call being serious about a car! That color combo sounds stunning. Well keep us posted on your experience.
 
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That color, on a Phaeton - with Bentley wheels! by paldi
Dec 04, 2005 (6:41 pm)
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Replying to: merc1 (Nov 29, 2005 9:26 pm)

Image hosted by Photobucket.com
 
I've just ordered a set of these wheels. Can't wait to see them for real. This is a photoshop.
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Re: That color, on a Phaeton - with Bentley wheels! [paldi] by merc1
Dec 04, 2005 (9:30 pm)
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Replying to: paldi (Dec 04, 2005 6:41 pm)

They actually look like original equipment wheels. They look great. Dare I ask how much they cost?
 
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