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#354 of 447 Come and see then... by paldi Nov 12, 2005 (9:56 am)
The source for the statements is here. Phaeton discontinued in US/Canada   Replies to this message: merc1 (Nov 12, 2005 10:02 am)
#355 of 447 Re: Come and see then... [paldi] by merc1 Nov 12, 2005 (10:02 am)
Replying to: paldi (Nov 12, 2005 9:56 am) I can't say I'm surprised. Though I don't want to see the car go, I think it is the right thing for VWOA to do. They fully need to concentrate on VW's more traditional cars.   M
#356 of 447 Meanwhile, back at the glass factory... by paldi Nov 19, 2005 (6:10 am)
another Bentley makes an appearance. Really just a Phaeton in disguise.
#357 of 447 ..you mean a Phaeton playing dress-up and pretend? by emauss Nov 19, 2005 (7:53 am)
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#358 of 447 Why...Yes! by paldi Nov 20, 2005 (4:18 pm)
Replying to: emauss (Nov 19, 2005 7:53 am)
#359 of 447 Re: Good topic! [merc1] by esf Nov 20, 2005 (6:37 pm)
Replying to: merc1 (May 15, 2005 8:18 pm) One of my friends just bought one and took my wife and I for a ride, and it is the most sensational and exotic large sedan I have ever ridden in. She has black over amaretto, and it is just gorgeous, with the black piping and well-colored wood. Any time I see the car on the street, I just smile. This is a lead-footed woman, maybe even as much as me, and she really pushes the car. She had hers with a $100K+ sticker, in fact $100,000 plus 20% of $100,000.   EF Replies to this message: merc1 (Nov 21, 2005 5:49 am) blckislandguy (Nov 25, 2005 5:35 pm) merc1 (Nov 26, 2005 11:30 am) and 10 more...
#360 of 447 Re: Good topic! [esf] by merc1 Nov 21, 2005 (5:49 am)
Replying to: esf (Nov 20, 2005 6:37 pm) I had to go back and see what you were replying too. Ahh...Maserati Quattroporte. A fine car indeed. We should see a V12 version sometime next year. What I like most about Masers is that there are so many leather/wood combinations to choose from. You specify the colors of the dash top, seatbelts and just about anything else you can think of. It has characters and uniqueness all over the Germans.   M Replies to this message: blckislandguy (Nov 25, 2005 5:35 pm) merc1 (Nov 26, 2005 11:30 am) blckislandguy (Nov 26, 2005 8:36 pm) and 9 more...
#361 of 447 No German-made Bentleys coming to the U.S. by xkss Nov 23, 2005 (10:16 pm)
The one above must not be one of them...   news
#362 of 447 Re: Good topic! [merc1] by blckislandguy Nov 25, 2005 (5:35 pm)
Replying to: merc1 (Nov 21, 2005 5:49 am) Merci, I've always thought that the Maser would be a far more bespoke option for someone in the S Class market. Apparently though according to the road tests (one of the Brit mags-Car?- compared it with the XJ on a long drive through Italy) it doesn't have much torque below say 4000 rpm. Unfortunately, thats where we Americans drive, slogging it home at 7:00 PM at night in traffic. Because of that it might not be a good alternative to an S Class unless it was going to be strictly for use up in Litchfield County on weekends.   Any comments? Replies to this message: merc1 (Nov 26, 2005 11:30 am) blckislandguy (Nov 26, 2005 8:36 pm) merc1 (Nov 27, 2005 11:16 am) and 8 more...
#363 of 447 Re: Good topic! [blckislandguy] by merc1 Nov 26, 2005 (11:30 am)
Replying to: blckislandguy (Nov 25, 2005 5:35 pm) I'd say you're right, very few if any S-Class/7-Series/A8 buyers are going to buy a Quattroporte as a direct replacement IMO. The car's ride and tranny are nothing like those cars according to everyone who has driven it. The Quattroporte is more of a 4-door Ferrari.   Now reportedly they're working on a regular automatic version and a V12 version also with a regular 6-speed automatic. Adding a regular automatic should open up the car to a wider group of buyers. They've already worked on the ride for 2006 and they've added both a sportier version and a more luxury biased version too, but that SMG style tranny will never equal the smoothness of a regular automatic. Too bad the partnership with Audi fell apart because Audi's DSG box would be perfect for a car like the Quattroporte.   For the past two Chicago Autoshows I got a special invite from Maserati to see the cars from the good side of the barriers. They are special cars for sure. Very unique and they really do make Mercedes and BMWs feel like "mass made" cars when it comes to interior treatments and the endless combinations of leathers/woods you can specify.   M Replies to this message: blckislandguy (Nov 26, 2005 8:36 pm) merc1 (Nov 27, 2005 11:16 am) emauss (Nov 28, 2005 3:27 pm) and 7 more...

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