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#344 of 447 BMW overtakes Mercedes by scott1256 Nov 09, 2005 (5:39 am)
for the first time this year. It bothers me to see a brand I admire so much being managed so badly.   'German publication Automobilwoche reported BMW global sales have overtaken Mercedes-Benz. Mercedes managers ...destroyed their bullet-proof reputation for quality and prestige overnight'   http://www.autoextremist.com/page6.shtml
#345 of 447 destroyed their bullet-proof reputation for quality and prestige overnight by kyfdx HOST Nov 09, 2005 (7:51 am)
Overnight? No.. it took them about 15 years...
#346 of 447 15 years.......kyfdx - Host by scott1256 Nov 09, 2005 (8:20 am)
Do image problems date that far back?   IMO Mercedes reputation was sterling in the eyes of the general public until the last 5-6 years. Replies to this message: merc1 (Nov 09, 2005 12:14 pm) kyfdx (Nov 09, 2005 4:38 pm)
#347 of 447 Re: 15 years.......kyfdx - Host [scott1256] by merc1 Nov 09, 2005 (12:14 pm)
Replying to: scott1256 (Nov 09, 2005 8:20 am) IMO Mercedes reputation was sterling in the eyes of the general public until the last 5-6 years.   Well actually in the eyes of the "general public" their reputation is still sterling. Only the people who keep up with cars and visit internet mesg boards know about all this behind the scenes stuff, well them and any previous Mercedes owner that got burned. If the image was shot as much as some would like you to believe here they wouldn't be increasing in sales worldwide.   M
#348 of 447 Re: Paldi..where is... [paldi] by emauss Nov 09, 2005 (12:40 pm)
Replying to: paldi (Nov 07, 2005 8:13 am) Thanks...it worked fine....
#349 of 447 Re: 15 years.......kyfdx - Host [scott1256] by kyfdx HOST Nov 09, 2005 (4:38 pm)
Replying to: scott1256 (Nov 09, 2005 8:20 am) I think that is when the problems started... As I said, they didn't lose their image overnight.... it took 15 years of problems to get where they are today....   It happened gradually...
#350 of 447 Rats! by paldi Nov 11, 2005 (6:59 pm)
#351 of 447 Can't find CNN Info by emauss Nov 12, 2005 (4:52 am)
Paldi - I searched CNN.com and was unable to locate the article you "quoted". Please help.   (e) Replies to this message: paldi (Nov 12, 2005 6:24 am)
#352 of 447 Re: Can't find CNN Info [emauss] by paldi Nov 12, 2005 (6:24 am)
Replying to: emauss (Nov 12, 2005 4:52 am) The CNN screen grab is a spoof off the VWVortex Phaeton Forum. Unfortunately, it is also true.
#353 of 447 ?? Came True?? by emauss Nov 12, 2005 (6:31 am)
I still can't find any real reference to VW cancelling the Phaeton. One the other hand, I have found numerous relatively current articles talking of bringing the TDI into the US.   Please elaborate.....   ...BTW, I drove a Phaeton last weekend from NYC to Baltimore and *loved* it.   ..can't wait for my A8L to arrive!!!!!!!!   (e)

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