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What is this discussion about? Jaguar XJ-Series, Maserati Quattroporte, Volkswagen Phaeton, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, BMW 7 Series, Audi A8, Sedan

#340 of 447 Re: Just got to Baltimore...3 hours in Phaeton [paldi] by emauss Nov 06, 2005 (9:48 pm)
Replying to: paldi (Nov 06, 2005 4:03 pm) Amen to all those items.   As you know I have the A8L on order and am happy with that, but I would not have gone wrong at all with the VW. It is certainly a classy, luxurious and comfortable vehicle.   All the nay-sayers have n0ot driven the car. If they did, they would be believers.   It is in an elite class and belongs there!   (E)
#341 of 447 Paldi..where is... by emauss Nov 07, 2005 (5:06 am)
..where is the control for the seat massage on the Phaeton? The car I am driving has the upgraded leather and I found the switch for the fan in the seat...but could not find the massage feature. Is it near the lumbar knob?   (e) Replies to this message: paldi (Nov 07, 2005 8:13 am) emauss (Nov 09, 2005 12:40 pm)
#342 of 447 Re: Paldi..where is... [emauss] by paldi Nov 07, 2005 (8:13 am)
Replying to: emauss (Nov 07, 2005 5:06 am) The seat message control button is the square push button directly under the lumbar controller (round joystick at top left of seat control buttons). It runs for 10 minutes. To turn it off sooner, move the lumbar joystick in any direction, briefly.   BTW, the switchs for the seat fans heats the seat if you go +1, +2 or +3 and cools the seat if you go - 1,-2 or -3.   Replies to this message: emauss (Nov 09, 2005 12:40 pm)
#343 of 447 Funny Video by merc1 Nov 08, 2005 (11:57 pm)
Mercedes vs pedestrian   M
#344 of 447 BMW overtakes Mercedes by scott1256 Nov 09, 2005 (5:39 am)
for the first time this year. It bothers me to see a brand I admire so much being managed so badly.   'German publication Automobilwoche reported BMW global sales have overtaken Mercedes-Benz. Mercedes managers ...destroyed their bullet-proof reputation for quality and prestige overnight'   http://www.autoextremist.com/page6.shtml
#345 of 447 destroyed their bullet-proof reputation for quality and prestige overnight by kyfdx HOST Nov 09, 2005 (7:51 am)
Overnight? No.. it took them about 15 years...
#346 of 447 15 years.......kyfdx - Host by scott1256 Nov 09, 2005 (8:20 am)
Do image problems date that far back?   IMO Mercedes reputation was sterling in the eyes of the general public until the last 5-6 years. Replies to this message: merc1 (Nov 09, 2005 12:14 pm) kyfdx (Nov 09, 2005 4:38 pm)
#347 of 447 Re: 15 years.......kyfdx - Host [scott1256] by merc1 Nov 09, 2005 (12:14 pm)
Replying to: scott1256 (Nov 09, 2005 8:20 am) IMO Mercedes reputation was sterling in the eyes of the general public until the last 5-6 years.   Well actually in the eyes of the "general public" their reputation is still sterling. Only the people who keep up with cars and visit internet mesg boards know about all this behind the scenes stuff, well them and any previous Mercedes owner that got burned. If the image was shot as much as some would like you to believe here they wouldn't be increasing in sales worldwide.   M
#348 of 447 Re: Paldi..where is... [paldi] by emauss Nov 09, 2005 (12:40 pm)
Replying to: paldi (Nov 07, 2005 8:13 am) Thanks...it worked fine....
#349 of 447 Re: 15 years.......kyfdx - Host [scott1256] by kyfdx HOST Nov 09, 2005 (4:38 pm)
Replying to: scott1256 (Nov 09, 2005 8:20 am) I think that is when the problems started... As I said, they didn't lose their image overnight.... it took 15 years of problems to get where they are today....   It happened gradually...

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