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447 messages,  Last post on May 03, 2007 at 2:41 PM

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What is this discussion about? Jaguar XJ-Series, Maserati Quattroporte, Volkswagen Phaeton, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, BMW 7 Series, Audi A8, Sedan


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CLS, 911, Phaeton by merc1
Nov 06, 2005 (5:31 am)
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I can understand what type of buyer he is. He really doesn't want a "sports car" like the 911, but a touring car like the CLS55 AMG. Lots of engine and brakes, but still rides good with power to outrun almost anything you'd encounter on the road.
 
Of course the Phaeton's heft, V8 (or does he have a W12?) and awd I would imagine make it unstoppable in bad weather.
 
That said I'd add a 911 Carrera S Cabrio or SL55 AMG to the mix. I suspect he'd like the SL55 AMG better.
 
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Just got to Baltimore...3 hours in Phaeton by emauss
Nov 06, 2005 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Nov 06, 2005 5:31 am)

It was very nice. I drove all the way, and the car rides GREAT. Can't wait for my Audi....shudda ordered the double pane glass!
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Re: Just got to Baltimore...3 hours in Phaeton [emauss] by paldi
Nov 06, 2005 (4:03 pm)
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Replying to: emauss (Nov 06, 2005 9:56 am)

Philly to Reston Virginia 3.5 hours - felt more relaxed in my Phaeton than in my den. Sport setting great on the cloverleafs, 35 pounds air in the tires, can't hear anything outside thanks to the dual glass and the insulation in the doors and body. The car flys!
 
Needs updaiting... Wheels, grill area redo, eliminate side chrome strip, more aggressive fenderline.
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Re: Just got to Baltimore...3 hours in Phaeton [paldi] by emauss
Nov 06, 2005 (9:48 pm)
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Replying to: paldi (Nov 06, 2005 4:03 pm)

Amen to all those items.
 
As you know I have the A8L on order and am happy with that, but I would not have gone wrong at all with the VW. It is certainly a classy, luxurious and comfortable vehicle.
 
All the nay-sayers have n0ot driven the car. If they did, they would be believers.
 
It is in an elite class and belongs there!
 
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Paldi..where is... by emauss
Nov 07, 2005 (5:06 am)
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..where is the control for the seat massage on the Phaeton? The car I am driving has the upgraded leather and I found the switch for the fan in the seat...but could not find the massage feature. Is it near the lumbar knob?
 
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Re: Paldi..where is... [emauss] by paldi
Nov 07, 2005 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: emauss (Nov 07, 2005 5:06 am)

The seat message control button is the square push button directly under the lumbar controller (round joystick at top left of seat control buttons). It runs for 10 minutes. To turn it off sooner, move the lumbar joystick in any direction, briefly.
 
BTW, the switchs for the seat fans heats the seat if you go +1, +2 or +3 and cools the seat if you go - 1,-2 or -3.
 
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Funny Video by merc1
Nov 08, 2005 (11:57 pm)
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Mercedes vs pedestrian
 
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BMW overtakes Mercedes by scott1256
Nov 09, 2005 (5:39 am)
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for the first time this year. It bothers me to see a brand I admire so much being managed so badly.
 
'German publication Automobilwoche reported BMW global sales have overtaken Mercedes-Benz. Mercedes managers ...destroyed their bullet-proof reputation for quality and prestige overnight'
 
http://www.autoextremist.com/page6.shtml
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destroyed their bullet-proof reputation for quality and prestige overnight by kyfdx HOST
Nov 09, 2005 (7:51 am)
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Overnight? No.. it took them about 15 years...
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15 years.......kyfdx - Host by scott1256
Nov 09, 2005 (8:20 am)
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Do image problems date that far back?
 
IMO Mercedes reputation was sterling in the eyes of the general public until the last 5-6 years.

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