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#31 of 447 hmmm by seminole_kev May 16, 2005 (3:02 pm)
That interior color must be an acquired taste. Replies to this message: paldi (May 16, 2005 5:03 pm) vwguild (May 16, 2005 5:08 pm)
#32 of 447 Re: hmmm [seminole_kev] by paldi May 16, 2005 (5:03 pm)
Replying to: seminole_kev (May 16, 2005 3:02 pm) It is best appreciated from a distance, perhaps?
#33 of 447 Re: hmmm [seminole_kev] by vwguild May 16, 2005 (5:08 pm)
Replying to: seminole_kev (May 16, 2005 3:02 pm) Actually, that is like like the "Teak" leather in a TOUAREG which I like a great deal, as do my customers, only a lot more of it...   It would seem to be pretty high maintenance having all that leather to deal with, and vulnerable to damage as well...   The physical plant though is pure PHAETON, but for a whole lot more $$$
#34 of 447 Bentley by merc1 May 16, 2005 (8:35 pm)
I like Bentleys and all, but the only true "Bentley" left imo is the Arnage and the upcoming convertible version. The Continental GT and especially this Flying Spur version have far too much VW in their makeup to be true Bentleys imo. I may as well be looking at the Phaeton in the above interior pics. I see way too much VW switchgear. Same problem with Maybach. Now the Rolls, as brickish as it is, is truly "bespoke" as they say.   M Replies to this message: blckislandguy (May 22, 2005 5:10 pm) brightness04 (May 22, 2005 5:35 pm) merc1 (May 22, 2005 8:19 pm) blckislandguy (May 25, 2005 6:32 pm) and 2 more... stroudman (May 23, 2005 3:45 pm)
#35 of 447 Bentley by seminole_kev May 17, 2005 (3:12 am)
Well the exterior does look nice and "Bentley-ish" that is for certain.
#36 of 447 Re: Phaeton, outclassing the Ultimate driving machines. [paldi] by syswei May 17, 2005 (6:18 am)
Replying to: paldi (May 12, 2005 6:18 pm) As it goes into further development, fixing a few bits and adding some, it will be king.   Is there going to be further development? I agree with you that it is a good looking car and that the discounted prices make it a good value. But my impression is that it has been an abysmal failure in a business sense, selling in disappointing numbers worldwide, mostly due to the badge imho. I would be surprised if there is a second generation. Has anyone heard differently?   Take good care of it because ultimately it could be valuable as a rarity.
#37 of 447 Just poking around some of the other topics... by seminole_kev May 17, 2005 (7:24 am)
...and have I mentioned that I'm glad this topic was created?   As far as the Phaeton goes, I'm sure it is a fine vehicle, just that for the life of me, I cannot understand VW selling that car under the VW name-plate when they have the Audi brand already? Just one move that completely baffled me, especially in the U.S. market where "we" are very brand name conscious. Replies to this message: vwguild (May 17, 2005 8:58 am)
#38 of 447 Re: Just poking around some of the other topics... [seminole_kev] by vwguild May 17, 2005 (8:58 am)
Replying to: seminole_kev (May 17, 2005 7:24 am) Just because VWAG owns Audi does not mean that Audi is VW...The two brands are seperate and apart...   And, does anyone not know that Lexus is a Toyota...The fact that the PHAETON is assembled by hand, in a factory built just for it's production, and shares the same frame as the Bentley C-GT and Flying Spur speaks volumes as to it's quality   Additionally, PHAETON owners are universally in love with their stealth wealth sleds...Think of it this way..."From Why? to WOW!!!"
#39 of 447 vwguild by seminole_kev May 17, 2005 (9:15 am)
Oh I'm not knocking the Phaeton at all, just that I question the business decision of marketing it under the VW name, especially in the US.   Even though I think most people know Toyota owns/produces Lexus (and I'm NOT delving into that here!) they get to drive around a product with the Lexus name on it, rather than the same badge that someone with a Toyota Echo has.   I realize that it shouldn't make a bit of difference, but it does to the market. I just don't understand why VW did this (or maybe I should say why VAG let them do this) as they already have Audi as the mechanism to do this with. I just think it showed a major misunderstanding of how the US market operates. Doesn't take away anything from the Phaeton in the least, just the business decisions behind the scenes. Replies to this message: paldi (May 17, 2005 10:02 am) docnukem (May 17, 2005 10:08 am) paldi (May 17, 2005 10:12 am) and 1 more... jitendra1 (May 19, 2005 1:59 pm) vwguild (May 17, 2005 10:10 am)
#40 of 447 S, M, L, XL by paldi May 17, 2005 (10:02 am)
Replying to: seminole_kev (May 17, 2005 9:15 am) MB is offering this in several sizes too, but so far at least, not in a different flavor (Chrysler). What if they did?       This guy must have a nice garage! Replies to this message: docnukem (May 17, 2005 10:08 am) paldi (May 17, 2005 10:12 am) hpowders (May 17, 2005 6:57 pm) jitendra1 (May 19, 2005 1:59 pm)

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