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Ford Escape Hybrid, Hybrid Cars, SUV
#646 of 712 Re: 2009 Escape Hybrid Order Delays [dukeguy1]
Sep 15, 2008 (5:09 pm)
Sounds strange to me. I ordered my FEHL May 10th and it is finally being built this week (hopefully). Probably not shipped until the end of September arriving in later October. So, - that is a five month wait which is long enough. I have no idea what Fords ordering sequence is about - there seems to be no rhyme or reason. Definately not taking orders as they come in. Anyway - November to January 09 sounds crazy! Maybe that is an outside parameter - still strange.
#647 of 712 Re: Concerned [hdtech]
Sep 16, 2008 (12:49 pm)
If you had already damaged the sensors, then the code that Ford read would have been explained by the accident, so Ford would not know if the accident or malfunction caused the error code.
I have the reverse sensors on my 2008, and one thing you have to be careful of is things like poles and people - they don't always register. The OM has a note as to the fact that it has to be a large object in order for the sensors to detect it.
Still, if the pole went RIGHT INTO THE SENSOR, that seems a bit obvious.
#648 of 712 Re: Looking forward to my new 2009 FEHL [decker5]
Sep 17, 2008 (2:04 pm)
Well! I received my Kiwi Green FEH Limited on 9/13/08. That's exactly 3 months from the date I ordered it with 1K down. I'm still in kindergarten when it comes to SYNC and NAV operations but am trying to learn a small thing or two each day. Only 170 miles into this vehicle but everything seems tight. It would appear that the final inspection process went well. Too early to report on mileage but I do like the "readings" it says I'm getting...
Little things: Wish the rear seats folded down flatter to create a more uniform cargo space. I'm personally annoyed with the rear backup sensor. I trust my eyes only and find this "aid" distracting. There had been mention that the "hidden" storage container between the driver/passenger could fit a laptop. If by laptop one means handheld PDA.....sure.
More later. As well as SYNC questions.
#649 of 712 Re: Looking forward to my new 2009 FEHL [decker5]
Sep 17, 2008 (4:49 pm)
If you take off the headrests the seatbacks will fold flat and also you can release the seat bottoms and slip them out for an extra 6" or so of flat length. At least that's the way my '08 is. I have never tried to put a laptop in the console but assumed if you lifted out the entire plastic box there might be room. I like my backup sensors a lot and really miss them on my other car, so I guess it's just a personal preference.
I wish someone had a simple answer as to how '09 scheduling is done. I ordered an '09 in early August and my dealer says he doesn't expect it until Jan or later! I just can't seem to get a straight answer from anyone. I would guess it has something to do with allocations.
#650 of 712 Additional Charge?
Sep 17, 2008 (6:03 pm)
Sometime back there was some discussion about an additional $1000 being added to the sticker price. If I recall right, this was applied to newer orders and not to orders made by a certain date. Does any one recall this? Most responses said that the dealer should honor the price agreed to and not the raised sticker price. Just wondering since I received my sticker from BlueOval.com and it is $1000 higher!
#651 of 712 Re: Concerned [stevedebi]
Sep 17, 2008 (8:49 pm)
I didnt read about that in the manual. The impact was definitely right on the sensor.
I got my FEH back from the shop today with a nice new bumper. Good as new. So I decided to create a little test for the backup sensors.... I put the parking brake on and left the car in reverse. I then stood on the side of the vehicle and used my hands and legs to try to trip the sensors. I should note that this was the sensor that was not impacted in my fabulous little crash. Anyway, I tried waving my hand across as well as bringing my hand in towards the sensors from as far as I could reach. The result is simply that things that came in from the side are not reacted to in a repeatable way. Sometimes I could physically touch the sensor and it wouldnt trip. Other times it detected me right away. Other times, it would react but just a second or two later than it should have (I had already made physical contact). Anything coming from straight on seemed to trip all the time. From this I conclude that my sensors arent very good or the design/quality of the sensors is very low budget.
If anyone tries this at home, please share your results so I can know if my behavior is a common one.
#652 of 712 Re: Looking forward to my new 2009 FEHL [decker5]
Sep 17, 2008 (8:56 pm)
The seats will fold all the way down, but as noted the headrests need to be removed. It is a sort of "2 step" maneuver. First you need to pop up and tuck the seat portion of the back seats into the back of the front seats near the floor. Then you can fully lay down the backs of the back seat. It is a snug fit for sure. I did find it slightly confusing at first.
For the cargo. It is there. You just need to lift out the main shell and that gives you access almost all the way to the cupholders. It is very deep. My wife often puts her purse in there when she doesnt want to carry it. Today I had a pretty large camera bag in mine while it was at the body shop
#653 of 712 Re: Additional Charge? [revmin]
Sep 18, 2008 (5:07 am)
The $1,000 price increase (and $30 delivery charge increase) on the '09 FEH's and does not apply to dealer invoice for retail orders placed prior to August 1st. The window sticker simply reflects the current MSRP. If you have a previous confirmed price with your dealer (as I did), you should not have a problem since there was no increase in dealer cost. If, however, you don't have a written agreed price, you could have a problem, depending on the dealer. I placed my order May 8th and mine was built on August 20th. I knew exactly what my cost would be including all taxes, tags and misc fees ahead of time and did not have any difficultly when I picked it up two weeks ago.
#654 of 712 Re: Additional Charge? [burnsva]
Sep 18, 2008 (8:53 am)
I agree with Burnsva. My price was set in June and the MSRP was a thou higher at delivery. The dealer made a big point at what a great deal I was getting but there was never any question that I was paying more. It was handled well. So if you have a firm quote (and especially if you put a deposit on the vehicle) there will be no issues with 99% of dealers. If your quote is more wishy-washy but you have an order placed try to firm it up now (rather than at the dealer when picking up the car). Or look at alternatives they can offer to extend the warranty....
#655 of 712 Re: Looking forward to my new 2009 FEHL [hdtech]
Sep 18, 2008 (8:58 am)
Thanks for the tips on the rear seats. I noted the bottom panels did slide forward but never looked at this closely. I shall do so...so thanks to all on that.
The main shell was lifted out and there is room there but configuring for a laptop fit is imposible in my view (at least with my unit). But it is still a nice area to dump a wallet, phone and other personal effects.