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Just got My Vin! by hxciter1
Jul 14, 2008 (6:07 am)
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Ordered my FEH April 18th. and just got my Vin. today. Dealer said August 4th delivery date.
 
Ordered a FEH Limited 2wd with EVERYTHING. A-plan prize around $30,000 even.
Location is Detroit, MI.. Will post when I receive it. Good luck to all, this forum has been very helpful.
 
Hxciter
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Re: Has anyone received their 2009 Escape Hybrid? [fmorriso] by warrentool
Jul 14, 2008 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: fmorriso (Jul 13, 2008 7:32 am)

fmorriso,
 
How can a buyer tell if a dealer has an allocation? My dealer says he does but I put my order in the day after you and have the same status as you. From this site and others it appears that people that put their orders in weeks after us are about to receive their FEH. Why would a dealer NOT have an allocation?
 
thanks
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Internal Ford Rumor by burnsva
Jul 14, 2008 (1:41 pm)
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I heard an internal Ford rumor today that they are considering NOT closing the KC plant for 2 weeks at the end of the month in order to maximize shipping as many 09 FE and FEHs as possible in the third quarter (therefore boosting sales numbers.)
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by crysnsteve
Jul 14, 2008 (5:19 pm)
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My dealer told me, before I ordered, that he took on inventory from another dealership (when it closed) and ford allocated 5 hybrids per month to him. Probably true, ETA is said to be 7/21 so we will see how it goes
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Re: Just got My Vin! [hxciter1] by alfredck
Jul 14, 2008 (7:38 pm)
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Replying to: hxciter1 (Jul 14, 2008 6:07 am)

Congratulations! Can I ask which dealership did you go to? I went to Royal Oak Ford, ordered early June and still have no VIN. They didn't ask for a deposit either, which at the time I thought was a good thing, but now is just making me nervous. Should I be?
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Re: Just got My Vin! [alfredck] by hxciter1
Jul 15, 2008 (4:47 am)
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Replying to: alfredck (Jul 14, 2008 7:38 pm)

I ordered from Dorian Ford and left them $1000. I wouldn't be nervous unless your salesman is Joe Saad. (Total scammer). Are you 'A' plan? Also, I ordered a month before and JUST got the VIN, so you shouldn't be too far behind. My brother ordered one in May from Suburban, and still has no vin. Good luck..
I will keep you filled in.
 
Hx
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Re: Has anyone received their 2009 Escape Hybrid? [warrentool] by fmorriso
Jul 15, 2008 (6:50 am)
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Replying to: warrentool (Jul 14, 2008 11:48 am)

My salesman claims (and I have some doubts about the veracity of what he's saying) that he can only get an allocation for a FEH if he agrees to take two allocations for Expeditions, presumably because Ford can't get rid of them with gasoline priced the way it currently is. He says the owner refuses to play this "allocation game" since Expedtions are a sure-fire money loser in terms of being unable to sell and the $4000 in carrying costs incurred every six months.
 
All this adds up to one thing: no allocation to order my vehicle and the only other FEH in this particular dealer's USOB.
 
From where I'm sitting, I figure one of two things has to happen before my vehicle can get an allocation slot:
  • The owner of the dealership bends over, grabs the ankles, and screams "Thank you sir [Ford HQ], may have another [Expedition]", possibly trying to add a "premium" to the MSRP of the FEH in order to recoop his expected loss on the two Expeditions.
  • Ford HQ "blinks first" during this game of "allocation chicken" with the dealer and decides they need to book the revenue from a sale of a FEH that's been sitting in the USOB since April 21, worse than they need to get rid of Expeditions.
    When I spoke to my salesman and the inventory guy this past Saturday, they assured me they were doing everything they could to get my vehicle built but still didn't have any allocation "slots".
     
    In lieu of all the other folks who ordered 3-6 weeks after I did that have, as a minimum a VIN and in some cases, actual production dates, I find it hard to believe I'm being told the full story. Throw in the fact that this is the first Ford I have ever tried to buy and you can see why Ford is blowing their "you never get a second chance to make a first impression" opportunity.
     
    I'm not new to custom car ordering. I've ordered the following cars since I began driving in 1970:
     
  • 1978 Chevrolet Chevette
  • 1983 Renault Alliance
  • 1986 Chrysler LeBaron Turbo (mid-life crisis car)
  • 1992 Saturn SL2
  • 1993 Saturn SL2
  • 1997 Saturn SL2
  • 2000 Saturn LS2
     
    Except for when UAW went on strike for a few months shortly after I ordered the '86 LeBaron in late 1985, I've never experienced the kind of delays and lack of believable information that I'm experiencing with the ordering of my fully loaded 2009 FEH Limited (U59/750A/WS+60N+187).
     
    It's one thing to have material availability, vacations, annual plant shutdowns affect the scheduling of production. I'm OK with that. But to have the "allocation game" be responsible for the nearly 3-month delay just seems like somebody isn't being completely open/honest about what's really going on behind the scenes.
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    Re: Has anyone received their 2009 Escape Hybrid? [fmorriso] by burnsva
    Jul 15, 2008 (9:02 am)
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    Replying to: fmorriso (Jul 15, 2008 6:50 am)

    My dealer explained to me that often dealers make "trades" of allocation spots or popular vehicles and will attach hard to move vehicles as part of the deal. My dealer won't take on any extra Expedition inventory, so he is limited to the allocations he has from Ford hq.
     
    Considering that production just started on June 23rd of the FEH - I am choosing to start my "waiting clock" then - not from the date I placed my order, (beginning of May).
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    Received a Ship Date!! by cwgmls
    Jul 15, 2008 (10:43 am)
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    Receipt Date: 5/9/2008
    Serialize Date: 5/22/2008
    Segment Date: 5/22/2008
    Sequence Date: 6/9/2008
    Blend Date: 6/13/2008
    Produced Date: 6/23/2008
    Gate Release Date: 6/25/08
    Ship Date: 6/25/08
    Arrival Date:
    Sold Date:
     
    The blueovalforum.com poster said there was a weather related delay in shipping. Called my dealer and he said it should have been here (NJ). Hopefully it didn't get flooded in the Midwest rains!!
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    Re: Has anyone received their 2009 Escape Hybrid? [burnsva] by fmorriso
    Jul 15, 2008 (1:08 pm)
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    Replying to: burnsva (Jul 15, 2008 9:02 am)

    You are certainly entitled to read the clock whatever way you wish, but given all of the following exist for every order, to my way of thinking, the only way to compare experiences between customers is to check all of the following dates:
     
    Receipt Date:
    Serialize Date:
    Segment Date:
    Sequence Date:
    Blend Date:
    Produced Date:
    Gate Release Date:
    Ship Date
     
    In my case, all I have is the first date, 4/21/2008. Check the next message in this thread and compare my experience to his, especially given how far after my order his was processed:
     
    Receipt Date: 5/9/2008
    Serialize Date: 5/22/2008
    Segment Date: 5/22/2008
    Sequence Date: 6/9/2008
    Blend Date: 6/13/2008
    Produced Date: 6/23/2008
    Gate Release Date: 6/25/08
    Ship Date: 6/25/08
     
    I smell a rat. A BIG SMELLY RAT!

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