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Re: Out for delivery [bjcarter] by fmorriso
Jul 02, 2008 (7:29 pm)
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Replying to: bjcarter (Jul 02, 2008 7:01 pm)

Congratulations. I ordered the same day as you did and I don't even have a VIN yet, much less a production date.
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by jlcomstock
Jul 03, 2008 (8:16 am)
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A few questions for anyone who has some info ...
 
1). Does anyone know if the 2009 will qualify for the federal tax credit? I just ordered a FWD Limited and what mainly made this a good buy in my mind was the tax incentive ($3k for the 2008). I've been looking everywhere online and can't find one shred of solid info. I'm still happy to buy the car w/o it, but I'd feel like I was paying too much ... I'll have to have the car for 8 years or so to see the gas savings be worth it over just buying a regular Escape.
 
2). What can I do to push my order up in the queue? I've read some stuff about a DORA, and assigned priority levels. I put down a deposit thinking that might help. I just ordered it on 6/28, and they say I'll hear from them when my order gets scheduled for production. (What factors go into this ... Color? Location? Deposit? Retail or Fleet order? Trim? Options?).
 
3). Production started on June 23rd from what I hear. That means some of you should get them soon. Let us know what you think! And if any of you happened to order from Sturman & Larkin in Pittsburgh (or any other dealer really in Pgh), that'd be good to know too.
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Re: [jlcomstock] by burnsva
Jul 03, 2008 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: jlcomstock (Jul 03, 2008 8:16 am)

Hi - congrats on your order! There is no reason to believe that the 09 FEH won't also qualify for the tax credit. However, based on sales numbers, I believe that Ford crossed the 60,000 sale threshhold in June which means the credit will reduce to half on October 1st. Elgibility of the credit is based on the date you receive the vehicle, not date the order was placed.
 
Don't think there is much to do to push your order forward - my understanding is the priority is: 1) Retail sales, 2) Dealer Stock and last 3) Fleet sales.
 
They have been starting to ship out of Kansas City, I expect many of us that are waiting on VINs should start hearing something in the next two weeks or so...
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Re: [burnsva] by pobre08
Jul 03, 2008 (8:51 am)
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Replying to: burnsva (Jul 03, 2008 8:41 am)

From what I can gather, the IRS is treating the 08 and later FEH's as a separate vehicle than pre-08 (?)
 
2008 IRS Vehicle Tax Credit Schedule: http://www.irs.gov/irs/article/0,,id=176409,00.html
2007 IRS Vehicle Tax Credit Schedule: http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=176419,00.html
 
2007 and earlier qualify for $2600, while 2008 still qualifies for $3000.
 
Explanation of tax credit calculation: http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=157632,00.html
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Re: [pobre08] by burnsva
Jul 03, 2008 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: pobre08 (Jul 03, 2008 8:51 am)

Yes - the 2008 credit went up - but if you look at other vehicles that increased the credit because of engine enhancements, it did not "reset" the 60,000 sales cap. I believe that all sales of FEH/MMH since Jan. 1st 2006 count towards the 60,000.
 
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=167435,00.html
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Re: [burnsva] by pobre08
Jul 03, 2008 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: burnsva (Jul 03, 2008 9:11 am)

Waaahh...
 
Is there a more updated version of the IRS credit? Just wondering who has the up to date numbers...
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Re: [pobre08] by burnsva
Jul 03, 2008 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: pobre08 (Jul 03, 2008 1:57 pm)

Haven't seen an updated IRS bulletin, but using Ford's retail sales reporting, they had sold approx. 50,300 between jan 06 and Dec 07 (FEH and MMH combined). Last week ir was reported that Ford sold 9,300 in 08 through the end of May...clearly they are close to the 60,000 mark and probably surpassed it in June 08. Let's hope that Kansas City begins to role them out in large numbers soon!
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Re: [pobre08] by jlcomstock
Jul 03, 2008 (3:07 pm)
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Replying to: pobre08 (Jul 03, 2008 1:57 pm)

Yeah, it'd be nice if the tax credits were fixed and didn't change, but they vary by auto manufacturer, model, and fiscal quarter (tied with overall sales numbers).
 
That's why I'm wondering ... I haven't seen new sales numbers or IRS information at all this year. Up through the end of 2007, the FEH was still available for the full credit, as Ford had not sold 60,000 yet. But sales are getting definitely getting up there... If they hit 60k already this year, I might not see any credit or just a partial one ... however ... if they don't hit 60k until November, I'd get the full credit come tax time. Wish I knew ...
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Re: [jlcomstock] by burnsva
Jul 03, 2008 (4:06 pm)
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Replying to: jlcomstock (Jul 03, 2008 3:07 pm)

Even if (which - believe they have) hit the 60,000 mark, we have until Sep 30th to qualify for the full credit, and then 6 months (Mar 30 09) to qualify for 1/2 the credit...
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Re: [burnsva] by rilian1
Jul 04, 2008 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: burnsva (Jul 03, 2008 4:06 pm)

Just another data point on price/schedule.
 
I ordered the following on 5/06/08 in Minnesota under X-Plan for $28,854.
 
FEH AWD Base Model (no options).
 
Other schedules I have seen suggest about 3 weeks from sequence date (a specific production week has been assigned) to ship date so may arrive in August however depends on how it falls with respect to two week line shutdown for summer end of July.
 
Receipt Date: 5/6/2008
Serialize Date: 6/26/2008
Segment Date: 6/26/2008
Sequence Date: 7/2/2008
Blend Date:
Produced Date:
Gate Release Date:
Ship Date:

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