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Ford Escape Hybrid Prices Paid and Buying Experiences

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Re: 2008 Escape hybrid 4WD [stevedc34] by dhuang2
Jun 12, 2007 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: stevedc34 (May 30, 2007 12:21 pm)

I purchased a 2008 Escape Hybrid FWD with moonroof/satellite Radio pkg for $24,870 at South Bay Ford (LA region). The MSRP is $26,735 and I have the X-plan plus $545 rebate. Ford also needs to pay dealer a couple of hundreds to make up the difference. To get X-plan price you need a referral from Ford employees. Email me (dhuang2gmail.com) if you want to know more about X-plan.
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Re: New Shopper [raptor3] by dhuang2
Jun 12, 2007 (11:40 am)
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Replying to: raptor3 (Jun 10, 2007 2:51 am)

I know there are TWO prices and both of them are lower than invoice:
(1)A-plan: Ford Employee price
(2)X-plan: Ford Employee sponsored or supplier price
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Re: New Shopper [dhuang2] by dj548
Jun 14, 2007 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: dhuang2 (Jun 12, 2007 11:40 am)

I don't believe they are BOTH lower than invoice.
 
I don't know about the A plan, but you are probably correct that that is lower than invoice.
 
But for the X-Plan, here's the numbers I'm being quoted for a base model 2008 Escape Hybrid, no frills:
 
MSRP: 25,740
X-Plan: 24,572
Invoice: 23,564
 
It's not clear to me how much dealing they will do on the X-Plan numbers. Sounds like someone above beat the X-Plan price just by playing dealerships off each other and using the invoice price as his base. I'm also not sure how much location has to do with that. We live in a region where there are literally none available, so there seems to be little incentive to help us out. In fact, the salesman kept trying to get us to just go with a non-hybrid Escape.
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Re: New Shopper [dj548] by cmuniz
Jun 14, 2007 (1:47 pm)
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Replying to: dj548 (Jun 14, 2007 7:29 am)

The dealer is required to show you an invoice with the MSRP, invoice, A-plan & X-plan prices so there should be no confusion or variance from dealer to dealer on those prices, which are lower than invoice. They also are not allowed to charge you doc fees and other fees such as advertising and inventory fees. They will also give you any rebates that Ford has to offer to either customers or dealers. The big variables from dealer to dealer are the amount they are willing to give you for a trade-in and how willing they are to sell you a vehicle at those prices. If demand is high they may not be very willing to sell you one of their vehicles at such a low price or they may really low-ball your trade-in. I have personally experienced some dealers not very anxious to do business under the A-plan and others that are very willing.
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Re: New Shopper [cmuniz] by dj548
Jun 14, 2007 (3:54 pm)
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Replying to: cmuniz (Jun 14, 2007 1:47 pm)

I should add that I've also spoken to a Mercury dealer about a Mariner hybrid. Again, the X-Plan was about 1/2 way between MSRP and invoice.
 
I think there's a significant difference between A-Plan price (employees and immediate family) and X-Plan price (anyone who knows a Ford employee).
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Re: New Shopper [dj548] by advequityguy
Jun 20, 2007 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: dj548 (Jun 14, 2007 7:29 am)

MSRP: 25,740
X-Plan: 24,572
Invoice: 23,564
 
This information is incorrect. X-plan is below invoice every time (except maybe on a very low cost Focus). The below numbers are exactly correct on an Escape Hybrid as an example:
 
MSRP: 25935
Invoice: 24763
X-plan: 24739
A/Z-plan: 23780
 
The dealership is paid a certain amount by Ford when they sell a vehicle under one of the plans when a customer has an appropriate pin number. It is actually more advantageous for a dealership to sell under A/Z-plan than X-plan because the subsidy is better for them. Of course, you would have to actually qualify for it to get it.
 
At this time, I dont think there would be a dealership anywhere that would be very happy about selling a hybrid on any of the plans, as they bring full retail and are in VERY short supply. The supply issue does not look like it will get better any time soon. If you can buy one with any discount, congratulations.
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Re: New Shopper [advequityguy] by wfraines
Jun 20, 2007 (7:01 pm)
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Replying to: advequityguy (Jun 20, 2007 8:12 am)

From Ford Partners web site:
X Plan Price = A Plan Price + 4%(A Plan Price) + $150
 
X Plan applies to Base price only, not options, but any available consumer incentives may be applied, and no extra fees may be added. For Hybrids, the X Plan price ends up being about $50 under invoice.
 
Also, you can sometimes find online Ford employees who will give you a PIN number, even if you're not connected with Ford.
 
Try googling Ford X Plan.
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Where are the damn Hybrid Escapes by rjl3jax
Jul 17, 2007 (2:45 pm)
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This is ridiculous...Ford spends millions advertising a great new vehicle...those who have somehow managed to purchase the vehicle provide rave review...but, I cannot find ONE available Hybrid anywhere...I've searched online ford dealer inventory all across the East coast and nadda...I visit the local Florida dealership and the dumb ass sales manager has the audacity to say the 2008 Hybrids are not worth a shit, have horrible power, don't really save any money in gas, and that I should just look at the Non-Hybrids on HIS lot...of course he made this amazing assessment of a new Ford vehicle that he has never even seen...glad I'm not a Ford shareholder...
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Re: Where are the damn Hybrid Escapes [rjl3jax] by gagrice
Jul 17, 2007 (4:46 pm)
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Replying to: rjl3jax (Jul 17, 2007 2:45 pm)

Don't feel alone. I got the same story from Toyota dealers that did not have a Prius to sell or test drive. Both tried to tell my how much better the Camry was.
 
Welcome to the Forum
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Re: Where are the damn Hybrid Escapes [rjl3jax] by teperilloux
Jul 17, 2007 (7:07 pm)
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Replying to: rjl3jax (Jul 17, 2007 2:45 pm)

My local Ford dealer in Portland, OR, has 9 hybrids and most others have only 1 at most 2. Problem is the dealer wants MSRP or higher, won't honor X or A plan and is a general pain to deal with. Their reasoning is they get a special allocations from Ford and sounds like they want to make enough on these to make up for the hundred SUV's on their lot they will end up heavily discounting... What sucks is they have the hybrid I want! Premium AWD, with chrome and audiophile (no Nav) in pearl metallic. I refuse to pay full MSRP and they won't trade another dealer for a hybrid.!
 
I think I'm going to order from another dealer at x plan. I don't understand why most dealers have none and then a random dealer gets 10 at a time. I'm with you and glad I'm not a Ford shareholder.

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