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Audi A3, Wagon
#250 of 444 Re: Best Time to Buy [ccd1]
May 14, 2006 (9:21 am)
If S3 comes in 2008, won't it most likely be based on the Golf Mk 6 platform? That would let Audi put in a bigger engine and offer a bigger dose of sport handling and performance.
A side note: Most of the "other" A3 forums speak of nothing but re-chipping the engines to get out every last HP. In some cases the results are shredded trans or half axles. But the chipping goes on.
I really wonder if the service techs and dealers catch this sort of thing.
#251 of 444 Re: Best Time to Buy [kurtamaxxxguy]
May 14, 2006 (4:51 pm)
All we know is that the European S3 is a 272 hp version of the 2.0 liter engine with quattro and a 6 speed. I question whether you could put the added hp to use without quattro.
Also, if they do catch the chip, your warranty is voided, Not worth it IMHO
#252 of 444 Paid $300 under invoice!
May 19, 2006 (12:59 am)
I just got the following for $300 under invoice from San Francisco's dealer:
A3 2.0 DSG Lava Grey
Multiple dealers in the San Francisco Bay Area are offering $200-$300 under invoice, including (depending on circumstances):
* San Rafael
* San Francisco
* Palo Alto
Now is the time to buy since they need to get rid of the '06s to make room for the '07s.
#253 of 444 Re: Paid $300 under invoice! [coreyc]
May 20, 2006 (9:05 am)
I am about to buy my first "NEW" car from a dealer. I am looking at the same A3 2.0 package without the bluetooth. This may be a general question but what is the best way to approach the dealer?
- What is the best deal you can give me?
- I want the car for $xx,xxx.xx?
- I want it for $xxx under invoice? (will dealers ever tell you what the invoice price is?)
I hope to be in my A3 soon, I just don't want to be screwed by a dealer. Any help would be appreciated.
#254 of 444 Re: Paid $300 under invoice! [pokipoki]
May 20, 2006 (9:53 am)
A few random thoughts about the buying process:
Consumer Reports makes this suggestion: Never negotiate down from the window sticker. ┼lways negotiate up from the "real" dealer price. The "real" dealer price is not invoice, but the true price paid to the manufacturer after any dealer holdbacks (manufacturer incentives offered to the dealer) are deducted by the dealer from the so-called invoice. This information is not easy to get but it can be done. Consumer Reports will provide it for a nominal price (worth it, by the way). KBB.com will give you a fairly good idea what the invoice price is with the options you want, but will not tell you of any dealer holdbacks that are in effect. These can vary from dealer to dealer.
Your first suggestion "What is the best deal, etc.?" should never be spoken and I assume you are not serious. The salesman's reply to such a statement will often be something like this: "How much are you willing to pay?" This does not justify a response. Another trick they will try, once you have made an offer, is to say "Is that the best you can do?" This simply means they want you to negotiate with yourself. Do not fall for that either. Always be prepared to walk out the door if you believe you are being taken advantage of. Do not fall in love with a car or you are bargaining from a position of weakness.
Go in with a price in mind that you have given a good deal of thought to and be firm. This forum will provide good information from contributors with similar experiences. Take the time to read previous posts. As we near the end of a model year, good deals should be coming. If you can wait until the end of summer, the deals should even get better.
Good luck to you.
May 20, 2006 (10:13 am)
While CU has worthwhile advice, keep in mind that the dealer has to make __some__ profit in order to stay in business.
Some schleps pocket nearly all of it, others try to give the customer something back in way of better service or support.
The good and bad of the USA Automotive situation is the dealer, whether a standalone or part of a chain like Autonation, is an __independent businessperson__. And (sadly) the auto manufacturers expects the __dealer__ to perform all service and support for the product.
Also check the BBB, Chamber of Commerce, and other local sources to see how many complaints a given dealer may have outstanding, and/or whether there is a record of problems with customers. This is not foolproof, but can help weed out outright crooks.
#256 of 444 Re: Paid $300 under invoice! [pokipoki]
May 23, 2006 (7:16 pm)
Nobody is really getting "screwed" when they buy an A3. The average 30k A3 2.0 Turbo has less than $2000 of dealer profit. Even if you walk up and pay MSRP, your dealer is not licking their chops in how much money they made off an A3 sale. They probably make far money on used cars, Certified Audis, and the higher end stuff. So don't act so paranoid about buying an A3.
Maybe a few dealers will sell a little under invoice on 06's to clear them off the lot. 07's will be here in late July to early August.
#257 of 444 Re: Paid $300 under invoice! [coreyc]
May 27, 2006 (2:33 pm)
So what price did you get, before and after taxes and registration?
Since people seem to define invoice differently "$300 under" doesn't tell us as much.
May 30, 2006 (11:38 am)
Any info on the changes for '07 A3 models besides the S version and changes in maintaince paid for in warranty period? Debating between buy '06 or wait for '07. Thanks
#259 of 444 Thoughts on 21K for base A3?
May 30, 2006 (6:11 pm)
I have an opportunity to purchase a base A3 with 9k on it for 21k even. Brilliant red - not the pearl effect. Catch: it was owned by a smoker and I don't smoke. The smell is quite bad. Dealer offered to ozone the car and change the charcoal air filtration filter. I'll probably also need to have it detailed to thoroughly clean the roof where the majority of the smoke probably affixed to. Body is in great shape.
Nearest as I can tell this is 4k cheaper than getting a new one for some inconvenience.