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Re: A3 3.2 v. S4 Avant [kurtamaxxxguy] by shipo
Mar 22, 2006 (6:22 pm)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Mar 22, 2006 5:30 pm)

"Does/Will the S4 run on regular without any problem? The A3 2.0 apparently will..."
 
Why would you even want to?
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: A3 3.2 v. S4 Avant [kurtamaxxxguy] by ccd1
Mar 23, 2006 (6:41 am)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Mar 22, 2006 5:30 pm)

I have to agree with Shipo. If you are worried about gas mileage or type of gas used, get a Prius. The A3 2.0 gets better gas mileage than the 3.2 and you can get the regular suspension on the 2.0 and it costs less money. If those are your concerns, the 2.0 becomes a no-brainer.
 
The S4 Avant gets MUCH worse gas mileage than the 3.2. That car has a V-8 in it and a 2 yr old S4 will cost as much as a brand new loaded 3.2. There is a good review of both the 3.2 and the S4 Avant at thetruthaboutcars.com
 
Here you are complaining about the cost of the 3.2, but in another thread here you are talking about how Audi could sell S3s and RS3s in the US. Cost is an issue with the A3 and is the major reason why people just don't run out and get the car.
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Re: A3 3.2 v. S4 Avant [ccd1] by kurtamaxxxguy
Mar 24, 2006 (6:19 pm)
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Replying to: ccd1 (Mar 23, 2006 6:41 am)

Sometimes Gas prices skyrocket, or you can't get the gas you want (70's oil embargo? I went thru it in both my German cars). It's good the A3 series can tolerate regular for short times - some cars cannot.
 
The Edmunds audi town hall transcript here was a good read!
Fingers x'ed on the 2.0 T AWD!
 
Also, Boomers are becomming a dominant market. A lot of them grew up with VW and by association, Audi. They want fast, powerful, luxo cars, but not necessarrly huge ones. That RS3 market may be here!
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Re: A3 3.2 v. S4 Avant [kurtamaxxxguy] by ccd1
Mar 25, 2006 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Mar 24, 2006 6:19 pm)

Money is not the issue, image and comfort is. You've been complaining about the suspension in the S-line. The S3 is firmer and the RS3 is even more firm. How many boomers will fit into the A3s narrow seats and how many boomers will tolerate a suspension that firm. Very, very few.
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Re: A3 3.2 v. S4 Avant [ccd1] by kurtamaxxxguy
Mar 25, 2006 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: ccd1 (Mar 25, 2006 9:08 am)

At the LA auto show, it seemed boomers were the primary A3 observers (Gen Y was crowding 'round Scion).
MSN had an article suggesting Boomers were a huge market for the very kinds of cars Audi and BMW are marketing, especially high power cars enthusasists love.
 
Didn't Shipo comment how desirable the S3 and GS3 would be? I'll bet they're others out there feeling the same. One way Audi would know is to offer the GS3 engine as an option and build very few of them to keep cost down and demand high.
 
As for my complaining, it's mainly because Audi has decided AWD only belongs on an S line. Your roads, ccd1, mirror mine! The AUDI dealer I visited also felt the S didn't work well in town (the open road's whole notha story!).
 
April/May, another poster mentioned, is switchover time for Audi and VW, so maybe '07 will offer more choices!
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Re: A3 3.2 v. S4 Avant [kurtamaxxxguy] by ccd1
Mar 25, 2006 (5:37 pm)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Mar 25, 2006 2:34 pm)

Kurt:
 
You are talking out of both sides of your mouth at the same time. Boomers are NOT going to buy the S3 or RS3. The answer comes down to one point: the suspension is too firm. Middle-aged people are not going to buy a car with a suspension like this. Heck, you don't even want the S-line suspension!!!
 
The ONLY way to sell this car to boomers is to change what these cars are. I'm 50 and the 3.2 is just about all I want to handle on a daily basis. Make the suspension any firmer, or the engine any more high strung and I just wouldn't want to deal with it. The S3 and RS3 that might sell to boomers is NOT the S3 and RS3 that Audi builds. The other problem is that the car doesn't look like it should cost what the S3 and RS3 will cost.
 
Boomers would be MUCH more likely to buy the S4 Avant. It's bigger, suspension is not as firm and it's fast as hell.
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Re: A3 3.2 v. S4 Avant [kurtamaxxxguy] by moto99
Mar 26, 2006 (6:05 pm)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Mar 25, 2006 2:34 pm)

The AWD is not limited to the S-line. Audi named all the AWD with the word Quattro. Many people forget that Quattro means 4 wheel drive.
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Trying to get a Decently GREAT deal on A3 by andres3
Mar 27, 2006 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: moto99 (Mar 26, 2006 6:05 pm)

San Diego Audi Dealers appear to be very picky about their profits for A3 sales still (even though the car has been out almost a year).
 
I originally got quoted in early February $25,815 for a non-metallic DSG A3 base/cloth optionless (besides DSG) model. Thats a good starting offer.
Next.... I find I can't live with the quirks and imperfections of a base stripper model. Add Sport package and metallic paint. Clearly, on any website, you can see these two adds total $2,048 invoiced.
 
So I should be around $27,850 right? Nope. They want $28,300. I should tell that dealer to go to hell, since they tried to say they were only $500 over cost on that offer.
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Re: Trying to get a Decently GREAT deal on A3 [andres3] by ccd1
Mar 27, 2006 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: andres3 (Mar 27, 2006 10:31 am)

1) A Volvo salesman told me your best deals are always in Feb as it has traditionally been the slowest month of the year for car sales. If cars aren't moving, dealers wiill deal. There are no guarantees that you can get the same deal later on.
 
2) The car being out a year doesn't dictate price. Demand and availability dictate price. If the dealer does not have many on the lot, there is no incentive to deal. If you want to bargain hard, you need to go for an Audi that is not moving for whatever reason (like unpopular options or lack of popular options) or pick another brand. Volvo dealer in my area is dealing hard with V50s to the tune of $3-5k. I was offered $3k off just walking in the door and another $1k over the phone.
 
3) Lying about invoice is just stupid in this day and age. Invoice prices are just too easy to get.
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Re: Trying to get a Decently GREAT deal on A3 [andres3] by rjlaero
Mar 27, 2006 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: andres3 (Mar 27, 2006 10:31 am)

The MSRP on a DSG sport pack, metallic paint car is $28,470 w/ destination. You need to realize that there's very little mark-up in the A3's. That car probably has about $1500-1600 dealer front-end gross profit. They're no doubt making more than $500 on it, so that's not true. I'd say if you can get 700/800 off MSRP on that car, it's not a bad deal. There's no dealer cash or rebates on A3's right now.

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