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Lexus RX 400h, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
#302 of 358 Re: Lexus 400h 2006 mileage [karens2008]
Jun 05, 2008 (2:02 pm)
I have not looked at prices for the Lexus 400h since I bought the hybrid first models came out. My daughter bought one like mine at the same time so we have two to compare.
The MSRP at that time was about $50,000 plus she added over $2,000 for an upgraded audio system. We did not actually pay full MSRP because we negotiated from invoice with some extras to be thrown in and free maintenance for several years.
I also traded in a car for which I was given a "good" price and this lowered my sales tax on the new 400h. I usually do not trade in cars.. I sell them or give them to a close relative after buying a new car and using it for many years. I had never bought an "expensive car" before the Lexus and I am reminded many times of the value I received for the higher price. For example, the original Michelin tires on our 400h cars were of higher quality than the original tires provided by less-expensive cars. I was surprised recently when my daughter had a "cut" tire and needed a new tire. She was told she could put on the spare and use it. the spare tire was the same size and quality as the four originals. The Ft Myers dealership offers good service and always washes the cars whenever an owner wants it done either dropping by or with a service appt so that adds value to the purchase.
I like the 400h because it is larger, heavier, more comfortable and, IMO, more safe
when compared to the less-expensive hybrids.
I believe the new 400h cars offer a different pricing...use of a lower base price with additional charges for some things that were considered as part of the base price when we bought. So, the current base prices are lower in comparison to what we bought.
Frankly, when I bought my 400h, I was looking for a better fuel economy in a more "luxury" car and the Toyota hybrid Highlander was the only similar car. I did not realize that I would be getting much better performance using a hybrid Lexus . I did not mind getting lower mpg because the Lexus was so much larger than other hybrid SUVs/midSUVs My mpg ranges about 27 in city and higher on the highway but I almost always have the A/C on. Anyway, I only think that there are two hybrid models now in the Lexus.. the SUV and a car.
It is a good idea to look at the IRS.gov fuel economy list for seeing the hybrid models that still give you a tax credit. I just bought a mid-sized hybrid SUV for my granddaughter because I will get a tax credit of $3,000 on that model. This is a Mazda Grand Touring Tribute FWD, automatic, with upgrades. I had to buy this in California and spend $1,036 to put it on a car carrier to ship to my home in deep SW Florida. I bought in CA because the hybrid Tributes are only available there on a 350 total car production on a limited basis for sale in CA. I titled the Tribute in FL as a "new" car.
I had shopped in Florida using Internet Depts and the similar to Mazda hybrid mid-sized SUVs of Ford Escape and Mercury Mariner were not available much at all in Florida AND the prices for the hybrids were actually higher than the Mazda Tribute.
Since the Mazda Tribute hybrid had much better interior quality, IMO, we did not really like the Escape and Mariner although the Mariner looked better inside than the Escape. Her Tribute, with extras on it, gets about 36 mpg in city and perhaps a few miles lower on the highway (reverse of my Lexus).
I recommend like the Mazda Tribute hybrid for someone who does a lot of city driving and does not mind a smaller SUV than the Lexus.
#303 of 358 28.9 mpg overall...
Jul 19, 2008 (8:07 pm)
...according to the trip computer, based on last 3000 miles or so of driving (2006 AWD model with 18k miles total). Last time I checked manually and compared to the trip computer, it seemed the trip computer was overstating the mpg by about 1 mpg, so I would say my actual mpg is right at 28. Was up over 30mpg till I had to start using the A/C again (central FL). My comute is not heavy traffic, with speed limit of 45 most of the way. Also, I found the 400h gets well over 30 mpg at speeds between 35-40 mph. Over 40 mph, it seems the electric motor does less of the work, and the mileage drops by about 10% at 45 mpg. On the highway, driving at 70 mph, mileage is about 27 mpg (based on the trip computer).
I am very satisfied with my 400h. I could not justify an SUV without the mileage boost from the hybrid.
#304 of 358 just bought the 2009 400h fwd
Sep 23, 2008 (6:51 am)
I bought the hybrid 400 to replace a five year old 330 that I absolutely loved, and I love this vehicle even more. I love the constant feedback on gas mileage that I get from the computer, as it is teaching me to drive more efficiently to save fuel. Most (about 90%) of my driving is in town, and so far I am averaging 28.4 mpg overall. I can't think of anything I would change in this vehicle. My husband and I and two dogs went on a 3 week, 4500 mile road trip in the 330 this past summer and got about 27 mpg, and we can hardly wait to do a road trip in the 400h.
Sep 24, 2008 (11:00 am)
So i'm thinking of getting a used hybrid and I heard that you can go on battery alone up to 30mph. So if my work commute is less than 2 miles local on relatively flat road, does that mean i can run on electric forever???
Probably not because I guess the battery will eventually drain. But i figure with some regenerative braking, it can go for awhile w/o filling up. I have no experience with hybrids, so I'm clueless.
What kind of MPG can I expect if I use the hybrid solely for work commute and keep it under 30mph?
Also, are the maintenance cost higher than a regular 350? Wouldn't the battery die eventually and have to be replaced? I would expect this to be quite expensive.
Nov 30, 2008 (7:26 am)
I think your biggest problem would be that during the warm-up period, 3-8 minutes in my part of the US (Northern VA), only the engine is used for propulsion and it sounds like you'd already be at work when the electric motor(s) kicked in. You'd get worse mileage than specified if that is your typical usage pattern. Sorry 'bout that.
#307 of 358 Took the leap with a used 2006 AWD
Apr 27, 2009 (6:08 pm)
I just purchased an RX 400h off lease with very low miles, and I'm really pleased so far with the car, and the mileage.
I'm averaging about 27 mpg in very mixed driving, about 20% slow city driving, 40% 30-50mph urban, and 40% highway at 65mph. Per other posts here, a couple of very short trips to the store, where the car didn't get a chance to warm up, has pulled the mileage down. I've had some 30 mpg days when I didn't get on the highway at all. Highway driving seems to yield about 27-28 mpg. It's an awesome car considering all it can do and still pull that kind of mileage.
#308 of 358 Re: Took the leap with a used 2006 AWD [likemycars]
Apr 27, 2009 (8:58 pm)
I am glad you like the 400h 2006. Both my daughter and I have these SUVs and average in town, about 27 mpg....she often gets worse fuel economy than I do because she runs the air conditioning while the car is stopped in the driveway for a while....We live in deep SW Florida where it is hot and she does not want to get too hot. We get better mileage on the highway. Neither of us have had any significant problems with these cars although maintenance and a few repairs are more expensive than at the dealerships of cheaper cars. So far, we use the Lexus dealership service dept where we bought the cars and it is excellent. I changed from a 2004 Prius because I wanted a bigger, heavier car that was a hybrid. Of course, the Prius was excellent, too, for its features and tremendously good fuel economy. I am proud of my 400h...it still looks great. btw, the RX330 that is the non-hybrid version, 2006, by comparison was getting only about 12 mpg average in town driving. I compared notes with a few other owners.
#309 of 358 3 years old Lexus RX400h MPG
Jul 08, 2009 (9:55 am)
I've got my RX-400h 2006 just a month ago, and have got 23.5 MPG average for a long trip (Seattle->San Francisco->San Diego->Las Vegas->Yellowstone->Seattle).
Before Lexus, I had Prius 2007, and for the first few months I had pretty good MPG about 45-50 average. but then I went to 40, or even 38.
I understand that my driving habits were changed significantly over the time, and the car itself is getting older and not so performant as before.
Anyway, my question is: does someone experience the same MPG degradation over the time?
#310 of 358 Re: 3 years old Lexus RX400h MPG [alexfe]
Jul 08, 2009 (12:37 pm)
There are many factors influencing the mpg on the 400h, ie, weather, terrain, temperature, etc. There have been times that we got 31.3 mpg on a long trip and other times 25. We average about 26mpg most of the time now in Maryland. I usually do not do as well as my husband but for the most part am satisfied with the 26. It is still a pleasure to drive and we still LOVE it.
#311 of 358 26 mpg city, with A/C, better on highway
Jul 08, 2009 (3:52 pm)
I bought a new 2006 400h hybrid over four years ago as did my daughter (both are front wheel drive and this gets better fuel eco than AWD). We live in hot SW Florida so A/C is on most of the time. I get about 26 mpg in city, slightly better on highway. She gets slightly less mpg than I do but she is not as conservative as I am in driving habits plus she frequently leaves the A/C on in the driveway or queue in a 'drive through' place. She has twice the odometer reading compared to me. I traded in a 2004 Prius that I loved but it was not as comfortable or as safe as the Lexus RX 400h which is superior in most features. I personally do not drive a lot and plan to keep my 400h for many years. I recommend this 2006 car highly but I do not know anything about the new models.