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Re: Completely Mislead [timothyt] by love2scuba
Jul 26, 2005 (5:51 pm)
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Replying to: timothyt (Jul 26, 2005 4:53 pm)

I'm sorry that you are having problems with your car. I'm a very happy owner of a 400h (so far). I have 5000 miles on mine and my mileage has ranged from 24-28 mpg on 90% freeway driving. Your mileage is only about 2 per gallon under the highway estimate and I think you would find it hard for any car to get what is on the EPA estimate. I have seen my mileage increase as I get more familiar with how to drive the hybrid as well as from breaking in of the engine. There is one thing that concerns me, and that is the car moving, even with the break on. If your foot is on the break, there is no reason why your car should have moved forward, engine starting or not. You are correct that the engine can start, even if the battery is fully charged because of the temp it needs to keep the catalytic converter, but still the car should not move if the break is on. I would have it checked again, maybe at a different dealer.
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Re: Completely Mislead [timothyt] by mirex
Jul 27, 2005 (1:37 pm)
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Replying to: timothyt (Jul 25, 2005 5:33 pm)

I now have 3800 miles on my 400h and have not experienced any of the problems you have.
 
I just completed a road trip that included crossing 4 mountain passes in excess of 7000 feet as well as fairly level stretches at sea level to 400 feet and I averaged 26.9 mpg. On a recent run from Portland to Seattle I got 28.5 mpg. I haven't had occasion to run mainly city driving, but am confident that the EPA highway mileage of 27 mpg is low for my 400h.
 
Around my home I generally drive 90% highway and 10% city and have been consistently been avenging between 27-28.5 mpg using 87 octane fuel. I met another 400h owner who says he gets approximately 2 mpg better when he used 92 octane. I haven't tried that test yet. I generally run with the AC in the auto mode.
 
There are two stages to the 400h breaks. When pressing hard on the brakes the graphic should not show any transfer of power either to or from the battery.
 
I have previously owned two RX300s and this car is far superior in performance and mileage.
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Re: Completely Mislead [timothyt] by maxamigo
Jul 27, 2005 (6:03 pm)
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Replying to: timothyt (Jul 26, 2005 4:53 pm)

My info came from my memory about the time I spent with Toyota engineers during the late 90's in their development building near Toyota City, Aichi Prefecture, Japan and seemingly countless hours of late night conference calls to help them solve a small aspect of the hybrid system.
 
If your vehicle registers 6 bars and still performed badly, it means your have extra loads on the engine. Loads could be in many forms: extra weights, towing, electrical problems (unlikely with Lexus quality assurance). The car could have passed quality assurance in Japan but was messed around with, and damaged after shěpping to the dealership.
 
The recommendation to take to another dealer is a good one because of many reasons. If they commented about the lurch as you said, I would not have much confidence about their ability to solve your problem (in fact, your comment leads me to think that they disown the problem). The system was engineered to operate smoothly, and seemlessly, ie. no suđden lurch. The CVT design can not experience lurch occurances long term because it would be damaged. That's why a precise and smooth engine was a requirement. And that's one reason the CVT, an old concept, was never really in production with a regular and imprecise combustion engine. The regular automatic transmission is not a good design preference conceptually compared to the CVT, but it can take punishment better.
 
Good luck.
 
BTW, you're not going to take my 400h! I don't let a good thing go that easy.
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1300 miles and still smiling by katzjamr
Jul 28, 2005 (5:35 pm)
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Replying to: maxamigo (Jul 27, 2005 6:03 pm)

My 400h has been smooth, quick and still puts a smile on my face after four weeks of driving. I get an honest 27 to 28 mpg in mixed city freeway drivng with some airconditioning use. No lurching, CVT is very smooth. Could it be the lurching you experienced was due to your foot on the brake and also a touch of the gas pedal? Drive by wire vehicles notoriously dislike two footed driving and that will cause a jerky response in acceleration.
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Re: Completely Mislead [maxamigo] by gunner
Jul 28, 2005 (11:07 pm)
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Replying to: maxamigo (Jul 27, 2005 6:03 pm)

I purchased my 400h may 5th. Took it to the dealer on the 24th for poor gas milage (20MPG). Dealer said all is at specs and eluded to my driving as the cause. On the 29th I took a trip to Lake Tahoe. While there for two weeks MPG as stated by the insturments was 33 to 37 MPG???? Great. On the trip home at sppeds of 60 to 80 MPH it averaged 28.75 in 90 to 100 degree weather and some air not alot. When home the average was again 20 MPG. Second trip to same dealer same results. When going over wide low speed bumps the engine sounds as if it is dropping out of the car. This is with only a very small amount of loft. Dealer says all ok...???? Also at times when traveling city and at about 20 mph I will speed up not too fast and I hear the RPM's raise way too much and do not get a corresponding increase in speed. Then the RPM's very slowly lower to a normal level.. Dealer is of no use. Dealer said milage U get is it Per Lexus. I've call for a factory Rep.
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Re: Completely Mislead [gunner] by mirex
Jul 30, 2005 (9:46 am)
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Replying to: gunner (Jul 28, 2005 11:07 pm)

Since my purchase of my 400h on 6/3/05 I have been getting a consistent 28+ mpg in 90% highway, 10% city. On a recent trip from Portland to Seattle I got 28.5 mpg.
 
Last week I had to do several short mileage trips. I was not surprised to see my mileage drop to 23 mpg. Numerous short trips are a mileage killer. The same short mileage trips in my former RX300 gave me 17-18 mpg.
 
From your post I can see that you enjoyed much better mileage on longer trips.
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Re: Completely Mislead [gunner] by rx400_owner
Aug 04, 2005 (1:39 pm)
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Replying to: gunner (Jul 28, 2005 11:07 pm)

Gunner, if I was in your place, I think I would try taking the car to a different dealer. If your driving at home tends to be very short trips, a couple of miles at a time than it might be as bad as 21 mpg especially during the hot weather. We had some time when we were doing only short errands and our mileage for a tank that way was just under 22 mpg. Other than that we are generally getting between 25 and 27 mpg per tank. I don't get the reving up of the engine you describe.
 
If your regular driving isn't in very adverse conditions (short trips, lots of stop and go), then it sounds like something might be wrong in the set-up of the car - it did well driving at high altitude and is doing funny things at home.
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Re: Completely Mislead [timothyt] by ulev
Aug 07, 2005 (2:39 pm)
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Replying to: timothyt (Jul 26, 2005 4:53 pm)

I just read your post by suring over from the Highlander Hybrid board.
 
You are not in error when you reported unexpected acceleration when the ICE kicked in...
 
I experienced a very similiar situation when I prepared for a right hand turn from a fast moving highway.
 
as I proceeded to turn into the sidestreet the ICE kicked in and the vehicle 'lurched' forward directly towards another vehicle which was in the intersection waiting to turn onto the highway.
 
I slammed on the brakes, thereby initiating a shutdown of the ICE and swerved to the right.
 
I definetely think there is a problem here that Toyota NEEDS TO ADDRESS !!!
BTW my mileage has also been poor with 26 mpg on the forst tank...did the dealer put something in the tank ????? to 24.3 to 23.2mpg.....hell, my 1990 4 runner with a 3.0 V6 got consistent 22 mpg.
 
Fellow Hybid Types, lets not sweep this problem under the carpet.
Sorry to those of you who paid close to 50K for a vehicle that does not perform as advertised, as I have for close to 40K....
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Re: Completely Mislead [timothyt] by hibred
Aug 09, 2005 (6:22 am)
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Replying to: timothyt (Jul 25, 2005 5:33 pm)

Re; BMW -- Ive owned 4 of them and have become friends with the service dept. Always something wrong. Same with the Porsche. The Lexus H I get in and drive knowing I will have a smile on my face.
Re the engine kicking in --- all cars have idiosincracys. How long have you been driving ?? This is a fine handling, driving car. sounds like you're a Chevy guy.
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Re: Completely Mislead [hibred] by rx400_owner
Aug 09, 2005 (11:07 am)
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Replying to: hibred (Aug 09, 2005 6:22 am)

Don't be so quick to criticize others. There is a service bulletin out on a problem that might cause the behavior that timothyt complained about. Like you, I'm not experiencing the problem in my Rx400 but that doesn't mean he's wrong or imagining things. If the idle speed learning is the problem, it sounds like there is an easy fix.
 
A similar thing happened on steering problems. Some people were complaining about pull in their steering and some of us had Rx400's that tracked straight. Some dealers initially brushed off the owner complaints, but there are owners who have gotten it fixed (and at least one reported it was a learning problem). I wonder if some dealer techs aren't following the proper set up proceedures (or if Lexus is working bugs out of their set up process).

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