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#596 of 629 Re: Solve This One [bolivar]
May 30, 2010 (5:57 pm)
"...Does it hit 235 before fans with the AC off?..."
Can't say for sure. As I just posted to Shifty, the owner says the AC does not operate. As I understand it, when driving in the city at slower speed the temp reaches 235 and the fan comes on and the car cools to "normal" whatever that is ( for most cars I've owned that would be around 195).
Remember, this is and OLD Corvette so I don't know if the computer in it is very fancy. That's why in my original post I was wondering if it could be so sort of mechanical switch which was the problem. If this is typical of all GM cars that would be fine. I just don't want my son to buy this and find out it's a money pit.
#597 of 629 Re: Solve This One [oldfarmer50]
May 30, 2010 (10:31 pm)
With an '84 vette you might want to check the body out closely since the frame wasn't the best leading to a lot of flexing causing the fiberglass to crack. If I were looking to buy a used vette, I'd look at a C5 or newer as the C5 has hydroformed rails which means a much stiffer suspension and no creaks or body cracks. Just my opinion of course.
#598 of 629 Re: Solve This One [oldfarmer50]
May 30, 2010 (11:42 pm)
84 Corvette will be a money pit.
#599 of 629 Re: Solve This One [bolivar]
May 31, 2010 (4:35 am)
As was my '75.
May 31, 2010 (7:32 am)
Now you guys are scaring me.
Then again I would think any corvette could be expensive to repair.
The kid has got the hots for this car so the money pit thing may be a moot point. I'm just hoping it's a smaller pit.
Any other thoughts on the cooling issue? The owner suggested installing a manual fan turn-on switch but I was wondering if there might be some other way of fixing such a problem.
#601 of 629 Re: Money Pit [oldfarmer50]
May 31, 2010 (8:37 pm)
Repair the AC. The fans will probably then run all the time, as designed.
A Corvette is nothing but a top-of-the-line GM. It's a Chevy motor and transmission and Cadillac electronics.
Here is the life line of many Corvettes.
-The first owner babies it. Probably doesn't put many miles on it. It's the car 'he always wanted', or 'it's the 4/5/6 one he's owned'. After about 3/4 years the toy goes stale. Or, if he's a multi-owner, it's time to buy the new model. The car has excellent maintenance from this owner.
-The second owner always wanted a Corvette but never had enough money to buy a new one. He drives it a lot. He keeps it about 3/4 years and then a baby comes, so he has to get something more practical. Usually maintained pretty good. If some small stuff fails, it might not get repaired quickly, if at all.
-The following owners see the car as a 'hot rod', and treats it like one. Maintenance is slipped. If the car starts and gets down the road, all is good. A 'check engine' light is ignored. The AC doesn't work, just roll the window down. The dash display fails, and it's going to cost $1,000 to repair, just keep up with the other traffic for speedometer, and those other displays aren't actually needed.
This is an 85, right? 25 years old. Had about 6 previous owners, at a minimum? It's probably been 'hit' at least one time. It's going to be a money pit if you try to get everything working and keep it that way. If your son just wants it to 'get down the road', it might manage to do that.
P.S. I've owned 4.
#602 of 629 Re: Money Pit [bolivar]
Jun 01, 2010 (3:08 pm)
"...Repair the AC..."
Now that sounds like a plan. If the fan and the AC are interconnected as you say that might be all it needs. Thanks.
As to the typical Corvette history all I can say is LOL. This one was supposedly owned by a doctor in Kingston NY from 1984 until around 2006 when the current owner, a guy in his 70's bought it. I ran a Carfax on it and it came back clean for accidents (at least back to 1996 when Carfax started). I get the impression that the current owner doesn't want to sell it but his wife doesn't want him putting any more money into it.
As I said, my kid has hot pants for it so my opinion isn't worth much. Thanks for the advice on the fan.
#603 of 629 Re: Money Pit [oldfarmer50]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jun 01, 2010 (4:07 pm)
Since the subject has come up, I would agree that a 1984 Corvette is not a good choice. It has CFI injection, which is not the best and hard to tune and fix right, and very difficult to modify.
IIRC, the '84 Vette had a thermostatically controlled fan that only worked UNDER 35 mph.
If he likes C4s, he'd be much better off shopping for a later 80s model. Better in every conceivable way.
#604 of 629 Re: Money Pit [Mr_Shiftright]
Jun 02, 2010 (9:25 am)
"...better off shopping for a later 80's model..."
Too late, the 84' is now sitting in my driveway. At least he had a mechanic check it out and there seems to be no major mechanical problems.
So you are saying that the fan situation may be a thermostat switch problem? That was what I thought might be the problem.
I least we now have a couple of directions to go. Thank you all for your comments.
#605 of 629 Re: Money Pit [oldfarmer50]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jun 02, 2010 (10:19 am)
Oh the '84 is good enough but if he has dreams of modifications on that CFI system or any future "collectibility" he can forget it. He'd best find himself someone who understands CFI injection, too.
Yeah the fan might be a thermostat switch. That's how it works.