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#11 of 108 Re: I believe....... [chris65amg] by m1miata Jun 21, 2005 (10:18 pm)
Replying to: chris65amg (Jun 21, 2005 12:06 pm) HHR has more standard equipment, including Air and I think ABS, and other stuff, so the $15K is pretty fair. Will be interesting to see what the gas mileage is, and if it looks as good. It may lack charm - who knows. It will be out soon.   The new front look on the PT could prove to be a marketing disaster.   Loren
#12 of 108 Re: 2006 Chrysler PT Cruiser [Sylvia] by robman Jul 10, 2005 (3:25 am)
Replying to: Sylvia (May 03, 2005 6:49 pm) I prefer the current dash and grille (2003 Limited owner prejudice?) but applaud the efforts towards reduced cabin noise. The Chevy is hideous and may find this retro-delivery van market to be pretty tapped out.   In the intended market the PT Cruiser has no competition. Chevy came too late with too little...
#13 of 108 I agree by chris65amg Jul 11, 2005 (10:50 am)
I think that the HHR looks deplorable.
#14 of 108 Well it tries to copy by m1miata Aug 13, 2005 (6:52 pm)
They did copy a lot of the PT features in the HHR. I have seen the little beast, and it is OK. Really not as cool as the PT though. Sort of like a shrunk down old Suburban, but that is what they wanted. IF GM was smart they would make a little truck version of the HHR. In a truck, the front would look pretty cool, and they could sell them as pairs. One of each in every driveway. The PT looks fine the way it is today. Changing the grill to stop at the top of the bumper line, and changing the dash is just sooooo wrong. Sure upgrading the sound proofing is a good idea. To have a broader hood is good for access, but will it change the look. The PT has a lot of good functional attributes, but least we forget, a lot of the appeal is still in the look. Some say Chrysler Air Flow, while others say '39 Ford, or just look at the gangster car or whiskey runner car when they first view the car. Why change that? The Chevy people say it was modeled after the Suburban. Hummmm? Guess it missed the mark. Looks better than that! The new HHR will siphon off some buyers that would possibly have bought the PT, but I hope the new PT 2006 changes are not doing even more harm. Here is an interesting note: The optional engine in the HHR requires premium gas, has more HP than the base PT, but 3 # less torque than the base PT. I bought the base PT with a stick, and it gets up and goes OK. I can see though in an automatic, it may be marginal. Anyway, the top HHR engine is 162# torque and our base engine is 165# torque.   Loren Replies to this message: micweb (Aug 16, 2005 3:39 pm)
#15 of 108 sale date? by i_luv_toyota Aug 15, 2005 (7:16 am)
When does it go on sale? After the Iacocca ads end? Replies to this message: m1miata (Aug 15, 2005 9:35 pm)
#17 of 108 Re: sale date? [i_luv_toyota] by m1miata Aug 15, 2005 (9:35 pm)
Replying to: i_luv_toyota (Aug 15, 2005 7:16 am) The new PT 2006? I think it could be as late as October. I like the 2005, so I bought the current design. New is said to be more quiet on the road. These are interesting cars. I have never sat so high in a car before. Must be like an SUV in respect to a driving position. Having fun just crusing, but within a few years, once again hear the call for sports car, RWD , driving fun. This PT makes a good primary and will make for a good second car as well. Sure can carry a lot of stuff! I got the stick, so it is still a little fun.... not a Miata, but fun in its own way to CRUISE in. - Loren
#18 of 108 Re: Well it tries to copy [m1miata] by micweb Aug 16, 2005 (3:39 pm)
Replying to: m1miata (Aug 13, 2005 6:52 pm) You said, in part:   The optional engine in the HHR requires premium gas, has more HP than the base PT, but 3 # less torque than the base PT.   Auto manufacturers are in transition in the way the measure horsepower right now. There is a new SAE test that requires an independent witness. I believe the HHR numbers are in accordance with the new standard, but the PT Cruiser numbers are old numbers from years ago. Look for a possible change in the 2006 ratings.
#19 of 108 RE: Sale date by rtimac Aug 18, 2005 (6:03 am)
I asked my local dealer how long it would be for delivery if I ordered an '06 PT Cruiser and he guessed about two months. Since I live in Michigan that would pretty much eliminate the convertible season for this summer, so I bought the '05 convertible turbo he had on the lot. What fun! I'm glad I didn't wait.   BTW, the dealer couldn't tell me how much the '06 would cost me. He said I'd have to order it and find out the cost when it arrived! Do you think it was a 'sales job' or do you think the dealers really don't know the costs of the new models yet? Hmm. Replies to this message: m1miata (Aug 18, 2005 5:15 pm) rtimac (Sep 09, 2005 6:46 pm) ilmor (Feb 23, 2006 6:48 pm) theking (Feb 24, 2006 12:38 pm)

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