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#5 of 108 Re: 2006 [redturboboy] by ptjunky Jun 18, 2005 (9:37 pm)
Replying to: redturboboy (Jun 16, 2005 7:42 pm) I think 230 HP is plenty for the size of the PT. I am not to fond of the new split grill design with no grill below the bumper and not to crazy about the dash either. what do you all think?
#6 of 108 Paint the side view mirrors by ptjunky Jun 18, 2005 (9:42 pm)
I have to also agree that Chrysler should step up and paint the mirrors on the PT, this would give it a more finished look since the bumpers are now painted to match the rest of the PT, unlike the early models that were released. On a side note I took my 04 GT back to the dealership and had them paint the side view mirrors to match and total cost was under 300.00 and it makes a huge difference in the look.
#7 of 108 Can we get additional info from Edmunds? by micweb Jun 20, 2005 (12:28 pm)
I have found three other websites with much more detailed information - membership rules prevent me from posting the links - but I am surprised Edmunds isn't equally up to date (they usually are the leader).   Two surprising bits of information: Chrysler claims much improved sound proofing (I had one and thought it was already pretty good) lowering the noise in the cabin by 5 db, which is great; and they are promising to match Chevy's new HHR on pricing. We'll have to see about the pricing, because Chevy is now toying with the idea of pricing their cars to market, instead of pricing them high and then rebating them heavily.
#8 of 108 I believe....... by chris65amg Jun 21, 2005 (12:06 pm)
That the HHR starts around 15k. Am I correct? I also believe that the HHR and Cobalt won't take price slashes because GM believes that the HHR will be a hot seller. Replies to this message: micweb (Jun 21, 2005 3:28 pm) m1miata (Jun 21, 2005 10:18 pm) cntrygurl (Jan 05, 2006 8:30 am) m1miata (Mar 25, 2006 7:48 pm) m1miata (Mar 27, 2006 12:51 pm) and 2 more... carbugs (Jan 23, 2008 7:59 am)
#9 of 108 Re: I believe....... [chris65amg] by micweb Jun 21, 2005 (3:28 pm)
Replying to: chris65amg (Jun 21, 2005 12:06 pm) 15,999, so even a weak negotiator won't get hammered, if they keep their eye on their trade-in.   My guess is that Chevy wants to revert to the old model of "tough negotiators will get a grand off, once in a while we'll throw out a special rebate of a grand or so, but not too often." The cycle of rebates is messing up everyone - it makes the cars look like they depreciate too fast, because the ALG and other guides report resale values compared to MSRP, not to actual selling prices, etc., plus in California at least we have to pay sales tax on the "price before rebate" so it is better to buy a lower MSRP or discounted car, than a rebated car.   I don't think either car is a "hot" seller but in the beginning they run the assembly lines slowly to ensure quality, and there are enough buyers who want novelty that there is no need to discount until they ramp up productio and the eager buyers are replaced by more routine buyers. The Mustang and the Chrysler 300 are "hot" sellers.
#11 of 108 Re: I believe....... [chris65amg] by m1miata Jun 21, 2005 (10:18 pm)
Replying to: chris65amg (Jun 21, 2005 12:06 pm) HHR has more standard equipment, including Air and I think ABS, and other stuff, so the $15K is pretty fair. Will be interesting to see what the gas mileage is, and if it looks as good. It may lack charm - who knows. It will be out soon.   The new front look on the PT could prove to be a marketing disaster.   Loren
#12 of 108 Re: 2006 Chrysler PT Cruiser [Sylvia] by robman Jul 10, 2005 (3:25 am)
Replying to: Sylvia (May 03, 2005 6:49 pm) I prefer the current dash and grille (2003 Limited owner prejudice?) but applaud the efforts towards reduced cabin noise. The Chevy is hideous and may find this retro-delivery van market to be pretty tapped out.   In the intended market the PT Cruiser has no competition. Chevy came too late with too little...
#13 of 108 I agree by chris65amg Jul 11, 2005 (10:50 am)
I think that the HHR looks deplorable.
#14 of 108 Well it tries to copy by m1miata Aug 13, 2005 (6:52 pm)
They did copy a lot of the PT features in the HHR. I have seen the little beast, and it is OK. Really not as cool as the PT though. Sort of like a shrunk down old Suburban, but that is what they wanted. IF GM was smart they would make a little truck version of the HHR. In a truck, the front would look pretty cool, and they could sell them as pairs. One of each in every driveway. The PT looks fine the way it is today. Changing the grill to stop at the top of the bumper line, and changing the dash is just sooooo wrong. Sure upgrading the sound proofing is a good idea. To have a broader hood is good for access, but will it change the look. The PT has a lot of good functional attributes, but least we forget, a lot of the appeal is still in the look. Some say Chrysler Air Flow, while others say '39 Ford, or just look at the gangster car or whiskey runner car when they first view the car. Why change that? The Chevy people say it was modeled after the Suburban. Hummmm? Guess it missed the mark. Looks better than that! The new HHR will siphon off some buyers that would possibly have bought the PT, but I hope the new PT 2006 changes are not doing even more harm. Here is an interesting note: The optional engine in the HHR requires premium gas, has more HP than the base PT, but 3 # less torque than the base PT. I bought the base PT with a stick, and it gets up and goes OK. I can see though in an automatic, it may be marginal. Anyway, the top HHR engine is 162# torque and our base engine is 165# torque.   Loren Replies to this message: micweb (Aug 16, 2005 3:39 pm)

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