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Re: I believe....... [micweb] by m1miata
Apr 08, 2006 (9:22 pm)
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Replying to: micweb (Mar 28, 2006 3:13 pm)

Well if the dealership where you bought the car from will not give you the Kelly Blue Book for trade-in price on a deal for a more expensive 300 Touring auto, I assume that they don't value a PT or their customer too much now, do they? The car, eight months ago, was bought for around 13,600, and they wanted to give me $8,500 for it on a trade. This is much less than trade-in value. Low mileage and eight months old, the car is like new condition.
 
I will likely just keep adding a quart of oil between changes and keep the Chrysler until I get another brand of car. So far, only the noisy fan was replaced. Replaced with a fairly quiet one. Or I may keep the little guy as a second car for running around town and hauling and get another sports car some day for fun and travel. If the car is worth like $10K, there isn't too much to lose in keeping it. Keep it for five years of more, it will be a great investment, if the engine doesn't blow. Oh yeah, I have the 7 year plan on that - so tow the puppy!
 
The car is fun enough to drive, though the too high seat position makes it slightly awkward for shifting. Body and interior seem tight. Other than the engine, the car is pretty close to Japan quality.
 
I looked up Consumer Reports on the PT. Interesting that the engine reliability is acceptable, but less so than the first couple of years. Interesting.
JD Powers indicates something it falling:
2005
Initial Quality Ratings (0-90 days) definition
J.D. Power Overall 3 / 5
J.D. Power Mechanical Quality 2 / 5
J.D. Power Body & Interior Quality 2 / 5
 
2 out of 5 rating is less than previous years.
 
-Loren
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...and by m1miata
Apr 08, 2006 (9:30 pm)
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..and may I add, a quart consumed per 2,000 to 3,000 miles I guess I can live with. As to VW using some much oil, I am aware of that. Sounds more like a problem to me. How do Japanese engines last for 2ooK or even 3ook miles and not suck oil like a VW does?
 
I will agree the price is low enough on a PT. Thank goodness for that. Would not want one for more than $14K.
-Loren
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Well by m1miata
Apr 19, 2006 (2:02 pm)
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Well I checked it again. Appears to be using at a rate around a quart per 3000 miles. Hummm, not exactly Japan standards for 4 cylinder engines. And this time I stood there when the service rep. looked at the stick. Can not believe they said before that it was not going down, as it certainly was. Now it is just another inch along the way down.
-Loren
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PT Cruiser changes for the 2007 model??? by nortsr1
Apr 24, 2006 (7:11 am)
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Does anyone have any info at to what changes are in store for the 2007 model?????
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Re: PT Cruiser changes for the 2007 model??? [nortsr1] by micweb
Apr 24, 2006 (3:36 pm)
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Replying to: nortsr1 (Apr 24, 2006 7:11 am)

No hard information, but my guess is that changes will be light since 2006 had a heavy update and the platform will apparently be migrating to the AWD capable Caliber platform for '08.
 
Changes that MIGHT happen: adding side air bags to more trim lines; folding the Limited and Touring into a single model - or ditching the base and having it go Touring, Limited, GT; adding more power equipment to the Base model if the trim lines are not condensed (but that makes it hard to use the Base model as a loss leader to get people out to Chrysler lots).
 
The upcoming major platform change makes it very unlikely we'll see more than a change in ordering options in '07. In '08, though, the sky could be the limit - the new engine series from the Caliber; a CVT transmission instead of a 4 speed, if the public accepts the CVT in the Caliber; possibly (but not likely) the availability of the 2.7 small v-6 in the PT (not likely since Chrysler has historically preferred the turbo route to the v-6 route, and the Caliber is coming out soon with a turbo version of its new 2.4); AWD; standard side curtain and side torso airbags; bigger wheels and tires, standard (think: Caliber).
 
In fact, I'd study the Caliber carefully, and assume that the mechanicals and features of the new Caliber will be an accurate guide to the mechanicals and features of the new PT.
 
The good news, is that the Caliber is "so" Dodge (the Ram front end, for example) that Chrysler needs a small vehicle of its own (the PT) so I don't think they will discontinue the PT. It WILL be interesting to see what they do with the rear suspension, since the suspension on the PT is expensive, but allows a very low trunk floor, while the Caliber has a high trunk floor (less efficient) but a better (in traditional thinking) handling style rear suspension.
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2007 Changes by nortsr1
Apr 25, 2006 (5:35 am)
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Thanks, micweb!!!
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Chyrsler Employee discounts??? by nortsr1
May 04, 2006 (11:51 am)
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I am interested in purchasing a 2006 PT Cruiser. Is there anyone out there that is a Chrysler employee that can share a discount I.D. number with me.
   I know GM employees get several employee friends of the family or GM driveway numbers to give out every month or so. Also Ford offers X-Plan pricing (all you do is join a Ford affiliate company (EAA for $40.00/year), and after one year of membership you become eligible for X-Plan pricing. I have purchased two Ford products this way. Also,several years ago, I received a GM Driveway Number from someone in one of the GM forums. It saved me some dealer advertising fees and was below invoice pricing.All they did was email me the GM discount #.Plus, I want to get rid of my Cobalt.
  I don't know if this is the right forum to ask this...but....if anyone out there can help out, my Email is lised...just click in my nortsr1.
                              Thanks in advance (just in case)
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2008 by m1miata
May 17, 2006 (6:56 pm)
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If the PT did come with a CVT transmission, would you buy it? I see that the Altima for 2007 will have that type of tranny. This is to help with gas mileage? 2007 PT I assume will be almost the same as the 2006. I see there is talk here about a V6. Would even the smallest one fit? Seems like the big four banger is sort of stuffed in there.
 
The four is kinda ruff, but it gets the job done. My car seemed to be using oil, but perhaps that consumption is slowing now. At around 12K miles on the car, I think the consumption is around a 1/2 Qt, per 3000 miles. I panicked too soon, when it appeared to be using more oil. While perhaps not Japan engine quality, I guess it is better than I gave it credit for earlier on. Noisy somewhat, but it is suppose to be an old time kinda car. And I assume, since the 2006 model is more quiet inside, you hear less of the engine thrashing around.
 
Anyway, I think the engine is using less oil now, or my eyes are seeing the stick differently. Could be the engine needed more miles to break in, though I am told there really is no break in period. Oh well, will keep ya posted one way or another on oil consumption. Perhaps all is well now.
 
While I still prefer some things about the first interior and exterior, the new PT having less road noise on the highway would be a plus. I hope they lower the seats an inch or two. I can barely swing that clutch in all the way. I am short, but not short. For an automatic, perhaps it matters less.
-Loren
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Re: 2008 [m1miata] by micweb
May 18, 2006 (3:44 pm)
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Replying to: m1miata (May 17, 2006 6:56 pm)

A stick shift owner! Congratulations, they are as rare as hen's teeth in the Base and Touring models. And never go on sale for the ridiculously low prices we've been seeing in northern California for Base models with automatics. (From a low of 11k to a high of 12.7k!).
 
I think the DOHC engine in the PT is pretty neat. It has a lot of torque and decent power (150 hp, which isn't THAT impressive these days, but 165 lb-ft of torque, which IS). Our 2006 really moves out. Of course, the gas mileage isn't great, but it isn't much worse than the new Caliber which is reportedly something of a turtle despite all the new bells and whistles (variable valve timing) in the new engine. Personally, other than the variable valve timing, I think a lot of the design work in the new generation engines was to make them easier and cheaper to manufacture and to make them easier adapt to forced air induction.
 
A half quart per 3,000 miles is pretty low consumption. Of course I used to own VW's. If you change the oil every 3,000 miles anyway (always a good idea, since it IS a high output engine crammed into a tiny - hot - engine compartment) you'll never really need to top it off.
 
Keep us posted, have fun!
#44 of 107
Employee pricing again! by nortsr1
Jun 23, 2006 (12:17 pm)
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I posted this on the Rebates and Incentives forum but thought I might post it here, also, as some of you might be interested. The Detroit Auto News and Phila. Inquirer reported that Chrysler will announce Employee Discount Pricing and a 30 day moneyback garuntee (sometime next week) and GM will follow with 0%-60 month financing.

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