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Acura RL, Infiniti M35, Sedan
#73 of 269 Thanks! Info helped me finally decide on the M35x
May 19, 2005 (11:14 pm)
Based on discussions here, elsewhere (but mostly here) and my lengthy test drives (lengthy at your behest; salesmen a bit perturbed) I purchased an M35x today (I'll pick it up tomorrow) with the premium option pkg. (my kids really begged for the heated rear seats not the DVD suprisingly!). RL and M35x both a joy to drive for 30 to 40 minutes (without the salesman!) but the vehicle sounds of the M35x had me.Viscerally pleasing! I must admit your advice to drive these cars for a while and shutting off the stereo (which the salesmen always want to crank) was crucial. I'll miss the XM traffic and On-Star in the RL but I do like the Infinti interior and the lane departure and adjustable cruise will probably save my life on some of my long late night drives. The rear camera will keep my 19 year old daughter from running over the neighbor's dog (again, sigh...don't call PETA he's OK). I am trading in a Volvo s80 which was a miserable experience; at 60K the repairs started and $8000 later I am getting the Infiniti. Interesting that Volvo refused to submit a car for testing in Road & Track's recent (May 2005) review. That car is so behind technologically that I am surprised they offer it. I actually paid only 2K less for the Volvo s80 T6 in 2001. The RL and the M35X are comparable bargains. I will say that in general the Acura dealers were a bit more friendly and less high pressure than the Infiniti dealers but the one I purchased from was very low key and dealt a bit on the list. Got more for my Volvo trade in than I thought given it's rather poor rep. Thanks for the help in making this incredibly difficult but fun decision!
May 20, 2005 (3:51 am)
I wasnt so much surprised that Volvo turned down sending an S80, more that (I think it was C&D btw) asked for one in the first place. The S80 simply isnt a sports sedan. At all. It basically competes with the old Acura RL, the ES330, and the Avalon, and not all that well, especially for its asking price. Thats good that you were able to get some money for yours in trade, since dealers are having to sell S80s now at such steep discounts, its really killing any residual value the car might have had once. Volvo seriously needs to cut its time between redesigns if they want to be more competitive with Japan and Germay. Anyway, enjoy the new M!
#76 of 269 Re: AWD [chintan]
May 20, 2005 (6:34 am)
There is a prices paid forum on the m35/45. No one appears to be getting anywhere near $10k off. There isn't that much profit in the car and it is a new and in high demand car. Some are still reporting MSRP. It appears more and more are getting about $2k off a loaded car. Good luck. If you find it at $10k off let us all know and the dealer will have us lined up around the block.
#77 of 269 Re: Accord/TL v RL [rmd3003]
May 20, 2005 (7:40 am)
With all being said that these words are all opinions, I just built an M35x added the Journey Pack, Navi and full sz. Spare. It was a little over 48k. Looks and handles better than RL. And please, please, please don't say that an Acura is of higher quality than an Infiniti. It is just not true. The 1st G35 was cheap on the inside, but that has been addressed in 05. Acura will always be a step behind because it does not like torque! And the both of you stop comparing Lux cars to everyday bangers. Both car makers developed lux car entities in order to compete with the Germans. Not to take sales away from their sister companies. The RL is no match for the M35x. And the TL does not have and edge on the G35. Now when the IS350 hits, the TL and G35 will have to make some changes. And we all know that Lexus is number one in the Japanese Lux car company.
#78 of 269 Discount for Paying Cash?
May 20, 2005 (9:22 am)
There's an impression out there that if you pay cash for a car, you'll get a better deal (see #72 above). That's a myth, isn't it? Dealers don't care if their money comes from you or from your bank, right? They get the money in any case, so why should they care where it comes from.
Am I right, or is it somehow better for the dealer to get money directly from the customer? How does the transaction work?
#79 of 269 Re: Paying Cash
May 20, 2005 (9:54 am)
Its been my experience recently that the dealership could care less if I pay with my own personal cash or if I pay with my bank or CU cash. Its all the same to them. However if you are willing to finance thru the dealewrship then they may give you a better "deal" than if financing elsewhere.
BTW: $10K off of any M's (regardless of configuration) MSRP is below Dealer Invoice. From what I've been reading ~$3K discount is doing real good.
#80 of 269 $10,000 off?
May 20, 2005 (11:17 am)
$10,000 off the price of an Infiniti M is a pipe dream. If you believe that, I've got a nice bridge in Brooklyn I'll sell you for $10,000 off my original price.
#81 of 269 Re: Discount for Paying Cash? [bartalk3]
May 20, 2005 (12:07 pm)
Yes it is a myth.
The dealer may want you to use "his" financing / leasing, though, since there is the possibility that the dealer will get a fee or a percentage for doing so.
Paying cash in the current interest climate makes about as much sense as using paper money to light your gas stove top, IMHO.
#82 of 269 I'm torn, what to do?
May 20, 2005 (12:28 pm)
My first post here. I wish I never read these messages. 10 days, 6 test drives, 2 nice offers from Infiniti and Acura. Still can't decide between RL and M35x.
Plus some posts here from kids whose parents have these two cars here only confuse - bland, Altima, cheap, Nissan, Accord
Back to two fine luxury cars:
Loaded M35x for $47,100
Loaded RL for $45,300
Price difference is small, performance almost the same.
RL feels a little softer, quieter and more luxurious, M35 feels a little sportier, noisier, more spartan and exterior is more aggresive(I like it).
RL's AWD system feels a little better when exiting corner and stepping on a gas.
M35x has a little more pull from stop(feels faster, is it only feeling?).
But RL's interior is so inviting and warm....... And ride is smooth and compliant.
Will buy car this weekend, but which one? Tough situation........