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Sedans Toyota Corolla Toyota Corolla XRS vs Nissan Sentra SE-R SPEC V vs Mazda3
64 messages, Last post on Oct 13, 2005 at 6:22 PM
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Replying to: gib11 (Aug 29, 2005 7:14 am) What did you guys said about break feel? Steering feel? Clutch feel? Look at the comparo from Motor Trend. The Corolla XRS beat the hell out of the MZ3 in stopping distance, slalom speed, 0-60 and 1/4 mile. Now chew on that. |
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Replying to: jmann98 (Aug 29, 2005 8:47 pm) I have a question. What about the 0-60MPH RPM band? Or the 1/4 mile RPM band. Your not paying attention or your talking base on your oppinion. Lets be objective. Check out the Motor Trend comparison between XRS and MZ3. |
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Replying to: biggus3 (Jul 16, 2005 2:04 pm) Oh so you can judge a car by just the looks of it? And who is this reviewer? You know what? Just drive the car. |
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Lets be objective. Check out the Motor Trend comparison between XRS and MZ3 Yes, please do be objective. The Motortrend test was performed with an automatic Mazda3. You can throw the acceleration figures out the window because automatic vs manual comparisons are apples to oranges. Chew on that.
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Replying to: newcar31 (Aug 31, 2005 7:33 am) Including in the comparison were a Cobalt LS/manual, Focus ZX4 ST/manual. Both have higher HP figure and have higher torque at much lower rpm range than a MAzda 3. XRS beat them all in performance figures.
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Replying to: giantkiller (Aug 31, 2005 2:44 pm) I never said the stuff you put in quotes, but I will now. The Mazda3 looks WAY better and more sporty than any Corolla. Even the XRS is nerdy looking. Around town, it will feel faster than the high strung XRS. As to your "figures", they're worthless. Like I said before, the comparison test that you're citing tested an automatic Mazda3 vs. a manual Corolla. Is it any wonder that the Corolla was faster? The handling figures from that test are relevent, but the acceleration figures are junk. Here's a figure: Mazda3s hatchback 0-60: 7.4
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Replying to: newcar31 (Aug 31, 2005 5:04 pm) So what ? Were talking about performance here. Isaid it before and I will say it again, Mazda 3 is the best looking compact sedan out there. " Around town, it will feel faster than the high strung XRS." Wrong again. See the figures from the comparison. 0-30, 0-40, 0-50, 0-60...I mean across the board, XRS posted the best times. And lets not say that the competition are all slush boxes. The Ford SVT and Cobalt LS are manuals and have more HP and Torque at even lower RPM comapared to Mazda 3. And they got beat. Do you expect Mazda 3 to come up with even better times than these 2 cars? Face the facts. By the way , XRS 0-60 is 7.1.
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You know which car's side I'm on here, BUT ... I just looked up their test of the Mazda3 manual, and "giantkiller" is correct ... the Corolla XRS manual IS faster 0-60 and in the quarter-mile. But that doesn't mean it's not a boring, ugly-looking car!  Meade |
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Replying to: giantkiller (Aug 31, 2005 5:50 pm) Corolla XRS manual transmission: 0-60: 7.1 Mazda3s manual transmission hatchback: 0-60 7.4 Face the facts. Manual vs. Manual. Apples to apples. CHEW ON THAT. That's hardly "beating the hell out of". Also----the sedan is lighter than the hatch, so it should be a little quicker than 7.4. Once again, you IGNORE the fact that the Motortrend comparo used an automatic Mazda3 and a manual Corolla.
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Replying to: newcar31 (Sep 01, 2005 5:57 am) Ford ZX4 ST/manual with 151HP  5750RPM and 145lb-ft 4250RPM with a curb weight of 2803lbs Cobalt LS/manual with 145HP 5600RPM and 155lb-ft4000RPM with a curb weight of 2853lbs.
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