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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Subaru Legacy, Saturn Aura, Sedan

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#7313 of 12297 Re: UH-OH [elroy5] by ykang

Sep 28, 2006 (10:33 pm)

Replying to: elroy5 (Sep 28, 2006 8:16 pm)
"You seem to be forgetting about something. If you buy the Accord EX V6 w/leather, you will be driving a higher quality car for 12 years, than a Sonata limited."
Are you kidding? I have had three Honda cars. 1986 CRX (best), 1991 Integra (very good), 2005 Accord EX-V6 (worst). I was so disappointed about build quality. Here is my evaluation. 2005 Accord EX-V6. Engine & Transmission: excellent, Interior design: very good, Exterior design: acceptable, Gas Mileage: very good but I had to give up my accord despite all the good things. You know why? Build quality sucks. Honda should do something about build quality otherwise they will keep loose customers.

#7314 of 12297 Re: UH-OH [kdshapiro] by kwonc71

Sep 28, 2006 (10:46 pm)

Replying to: kdshapiro (Sep 28, 2006 4:39 am)
Did I say Kia and Hyundai are the best? My first Kia, 1998 Sephia had many little problems and it was a Junk. Most of all, brake noise problem went on. However, that Junk never stopped running while I was driving the car.
 
Have owned 3 kias and 2 hyundais so far , and have not had stalling problems on any one of those. Last Hyundai Sonata had 62,000 miles on it when I trade in. Never had to turn ignition twice.
 
A/C problem make you sweat, Stalling problem make you bleed. You can't compare those two.

#7315 of 12297 Re: Reliabiltiy [elroy5] by mz6greyghost

Sep 29, 2006 (4:59 am)

Replying to: elroy5 (Sep 28, 2006 7:18 pm)
I don't think there will be a "line" for Fusions. You won't have to get up early, to beat the crowd.
 
That's funny, but all the local Ford dealers can't keep the Fusions in stock. In fact, a dealer near me has about 4-5 different Fusion models on the lot, and they're GONE the next week, replaced by newer models. This has happened ever since the Fusion was introduced.

#7316 of 12297 Re: UH-OH [elroy5] by mz6greyghost

Sep 29, 2006 (5:02 am)

Replying to: elroy5 (Sep 28, 2006 8:16 pm)
Are you actually claiming the Sonata is the same quality? You may think so, but I definitely don't.
 
I guess we'll find out in 12 years, considering that they've been doing well in initial quality studies for the past few years. It wouldn't surprise me if Hyundai does do well, their product has been impressive lately.

#7317 of 12297 Re: UH-OH [kwonc71] by kdshapiro

Sep 29, 2006 (5:24 am)

Replying to: kwonc71 (Sep 28, 2006 10:46 pm)
Yes, you did say Hyundai and Kia were better than Acura. Price independent, I would rather own an Acura than one of these two. You stated you have never been stranded in either of these car. I think you're lucky. Acuras are known for their quality and reliability.

#7318 of 12297 Re: Reliabiltiy [mz6greyghost] by louiswei

Sep 29, 2006 (5:32 am)

Replying to: mz6greyghost (Sep 29, 2006 4:59 am)
That's funny, but all the local Ford dealers can't keep the Fusions in stock
 
That's not the case in where I live. When I was at my local Ford dealer for a test drive the parking lot was filled by Fusion. Maybe in the heartland the Fusion is selling like hot cakes but I am willing to put down money on saying that's not the case in the coastal states.

#7319 of 12297 Re: UH-OH [kdshapiro] by louiswei

Sep 29, 2006 (5:38 am)

Replying to: kdshapiro (Sep 29, 2006 5:24 am)
Anybody whom thinks Hyundai and Kia (Kia!!!) are better than Acura is OUT OF HIS MIND! Price independent nor dependent. Hyundai is comparable to Nissan, Toyota and Honda (even that's pushing it a little bit) but is definitely not in the same class as Acura. People compare Acura to Lexus, infiniti or even BMW BUT DEFINITELY NOT HYUNDAI. Those Hyundai fanboys need to cool their head and start thinking straight. Maybe in Korea Hyundai is DA BOMB (since more than 90% of the car in Korea is Hyundai anyway) but NOT EVERYWHERE ELSE.

#7320 of 12297 Re: UH-OH [thegraduate] by bobad

Sep 29, 2006 (5:57 am)

Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 28, 2006 7:59 pm)
It's quality has improved greatly in the last 5 years, IMO.
 
Agreed. However, it took a quantum leap in the 06 model year. It lept squarely into the realm of Toyota and Honda, and surpassed the rest.

#7321 of 12297 Re: Reliabiltiy [mz6greyghost] by baggs32

Sep 29, 2006 (6:15 am)

Replying to: mz6greyghost (Sep 29, 2006 4:59 am)
That's funny, but all the local Ford dealers can't keep the Fusions in stock.
 
The same thing was going on around here, Western PA, during the MY switchover. A quick inventory check shows that most dealers have somewhere between 5 and 10 '07 Fusions on their lots currently. Some AWD copies are even available. If you want a left-over '06 then don't come around here because they're all gone save for a few "strippers". I see them everywhere on the road now so people are buying them. Not at Accord/Camry levels but I'm sure Ford is pleased.
 
In fact, my dad was looking for a Fusion last month to replace his '96 Sable but couldn't find one he liked anywhere. He ended up with a Zephyr instead and loves it.

#7322 of 12297 Fusions Will Sell Very Well by lweiss

Sep 29, 2006 (6:29 am)

I think the Ford Fusion will continue to be a good seller for Ford not only for its own attributes, but because there are lots of good Ford dealers around and it is just about the only good "car" that Ford sells in North America for now- the Crown Vic is for oldies (and cops!), the Focus is in serious need of an upgrade, and the Taurus is going away (except for rental cars, right?). Ford needs another solid hit for their cars in North America, their truck and mid/large size SUV sales are in the tank. At least on the coasts, I don't know about the heartland, South.

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