Last post on Apr 13, 2007 at 11:55 AM
You are in the Sedans
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Subaru Legacy, Saturn Aura, Sedan
Aug 11, 2006 (6:15 pm)
I'm definitely looking forward to this new Altima as well. I'm guessing we'll soon get a taste of Nissan's second round of products within the next two to three months seeing as the new Sentra gets here Early to Mid October (just in time for my 21st birthday no less!!!!)
I'm looking forward to the Sentra especially seeing as it hasn't been redesigned since 2000. But the Altima is the car that will make or break Nissan's useage of CVT because it's going to be the volume seller. I usually recommend Honda's but it's Nissan that's got the soft spot in my heart.
2007 and 2008 are going to be interesting years for the midsize sedan segment.
2007 New Models include
-Chrysler Sebring (Coming out in Sept or October of this 06)
-Nissan Altima (November)
-Saturn Aura (out NOW I've seen one locally here in S.C.)
-Toyota Camry (already OUT)
2008 Will be HOT as well
-New Malibu (for some reason it reminds me of the current Acura TL)
-New Dodge Avenger (should be out around Jan of 2007)
-New Verona (if that means anything to anyone)
So basically everything in the segment will be pretty fresh by the 2008 model year. Even the Sonata will probably be getting ready for a refresh by then. This market is getting better and better each year.
#6053 of 12297 Re: Jrock [maxamillion1]
Aug 11, 2006 (7:06 pm)
Some of those cars will be important, but the pics of new Sebring show it to be a styling disaster when Chrysler usually has new cars with hot styling.
The current Malibu seems to be an OK car with very frumpy styling, but the new one looks like it will have decent styling from what I can see beyond all the camouflage
#6054 of 12297 If you read the article in Inside Line...
Aug 11, 2006 (7:36 pm)
...about the 2008 Malibu, it looks like that it will be larger than the current Impala! Guess it won't be considered midsize anymore? Also it will have an hybrid version! Just hope it's a little more reasonable than the Camry Hybrid!
Aug 11, 2006 (7:55 pm)
You don't think the Camry Hybrid is reasonable? Its actually just below the average price of a new car in the US. Once things steady out, you'll be look at $25k. For what you get, that's a pretty good deal, no?
Malibu Hybrid won't have the same level of technology--GM is a good generation or two behind Toyota and Honda. Toyota's hybrid technology is easily the most advanced, but Honda is catching up. Ford is basically using Toyota's first generation technology, but GM is not even really at that point yet.
#6056 of 12297 Re: Hmm [mfletou1]
Aug 11, 2006 (10:19 pm)
I find an out-the-door UNDER 25K reasonable and an out-the-door UNDER 20K for a family sedan that has a VV-T V6 engine with 225 horses and 226 lbs-ft of torque, 105 cu. ft. interior volume (same as a Chevy Impala), 16 cu ft trunk, 16" alloy wheels, standard ABS with EBD, traction, stability, 6 air bags, full power features, has a NSTHA all around 5 star crash test rating, and last but not least has the best warranty in America a damn bargain that's really hard to compare to and hard to walk away from!
#6057 of 12297 Re: Hmm [luvmbooty]
Aug 12, 2006 (7:17 am)
Which car are you talking about? It sounds a lot like a '06 Sonata GLS V6, except for the engine specs.
#6058 of 12297 Re: Numbers of posts [pat]
Aug 12, 2006 (8:15 am)
Okay, I'm going to have to step in here. Numbers of posts mean absolutely nothing statistically. Everybody say it with me: numbers of posts mean absolutely nothing statistically.
I've been preaching this for over a year now! Bravo, pat!
#6059 of 12297 Re: JD Power [badgerfan]
Aug 12, 2006 (1:32 pm)
"Honda as a brand had 194 problems per 100 vehicles. Ford brand name was 12th on the list with 227 problems per 100 vehicles. Thus on the average, a Honda had 1.94 problems per vehicle, and Ford had 2.27. Hardly an overwhelming difference! "
THANK-YOU!!! badgerfan!! One of my points you nail right on the head! Education is key here. With the media pounding it into peoples heads over the years that anything Ford/GM is garbage and anything Honda/Toyota is gold.. There are those who need to see real numbers. Reliability is pretty much a non-factor in todays automobiles. With the way Honda fans talk you would have thought Honda's are just light years ahead of Ford in reliability still. 1.94 vs 2.27!! problems.. Hardly light years..
Aug 12, 2006 (1:36 pm)
Anyone want the dealership name and number and VIN# of the Honda Accord V6 EX automatics, leather, moonroof, heated front seats, pwr, ect.. they are selling for $25,388?? Oh, by the way, no nav on these either. AND there are only 2 available at this price... $23K for my Fusion, like optioned sure looks good now..