Midsize Sedans Comparison Thread - READ ONLY

12297 messages,  Last post on Apr 13, 2007 at 12:55 PM

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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Subaru Legacy, Saturn Aura, Sedan

#4185 of 12297 Re: why altima, fusion, impala get no respect [elroy5] by backy

Jun 12, 2006 (8:13 pm)

Replying to: elroy5 (Jun 12, 2006 8:04 pm)
Well, it was a really, really bad car. At a time when other Asian automakers were already good and the bar had been set. No such bar in the '70s when Honda and Toyota got their start.
 
Yes, it will take more than one car to build Hyundai's reputation. Like the pre-'06 Sonata (Gen 3 was not a bad car, just not a great car); Accent (starting in '95, a really nice little car for its time); Elantra (especially the Gen 3 starting in '01, although the Gen 2 wasn't that bad either); Santa Fe; Tiburon; and all the "24x7" vehicles starting in late 2004: Tucson, Sonata, Azera, Accent, Entourage, Santa Fe, Elantra; and the new models to come e.g. Mesa and Equus.

#4187 of 12297 I'm continuing to by pat

Jun 12, 2006 (8:50 pm)

remove posts that are about each other and not about the cars.
 
This is getting very old, folks.

#4189 of 12297 Re: 2011 [leadfoot6] by bobad

Jun 13, 2006 (5:35 am)

Replying to: goodegg (Jun 12, 2006 6:53 pm)
Its just a good car priced right.
 
Thank you. When I go car shopping, that's exactly what I'm looking for. No glitz, no glamor, no $500 per month notes, no ego, no sports car ride to damage my kidneys. Just a good car priced right. That's the essence of what the mid sized sedan genre should be. Yet some people try to stuff them with NAV and every gizmo in existance, make a luxury road car out of them. That doesn't make sense to me. If I wanted a comfortable road car, the Sonata, Camry, Accord, FMZ, Mazda6, Altima... all fall far short. I would much prefer a big Buick, Caddy,etc for that purpose.

#4190 of 12297 Re: why altima, fusion, impala get no respect [ace35] by bobad

Jun 13, 2006 (5:50 am)

Replying to: ace35 (Jun 12, 2006 4:46 pm)
Well it was a try. Sorry Sonata maybe in 10 yrs when you earn a good reputation. LOL
 
It's entirely possible to turn build quality around from horrible to excellent in 1 year. However, you are right that it takes a few years to improve an entire car. Hyundai is deadly serious about surpassing their competition in quality and price. The Sonata is close as it stands right now, and rapidly gaining. Take a peek underneath a Sonata, Accord, and Camry. The Sonata's suspension components are undeniable proof that Hyundai is committed to winning the quality war.

#4191 of 12297 Re: why altima, fusion, impala get no respect [elroy5] by imidazol97

Jun 13, 2006 (7:26 am)

Replying to: elroy5 (Jun 12, 2006 7:17 pm)
>Honda has never had a "bad reputation
 
The Accords had problems in 2003. Read the Accord problems discussion that's closed because it was replaced by small groups of years since all the years together were collecting a large list of problems.
 
The transmissions in Odysseys? Accords? Pilots? Pilots have a list of problems. Odysseys have noise from driveline or something...

#4192 of 12297 midsize quality by beantown

Jun 13, 2006 (7:41 am)

My neighbors have three cars in their stable: a Camry, Accord and Mazda6 (all less than 5 years old). If that doesn't speak to how competitive this class is, when one family can't decide on a clear winner, I don't know what does.

#4193 of 12297 Re: midsize quality [beantown] by mtnman1

Jun 13, 2006 (9:27 am)

Replying to: beantown (Jun 13, 2006 7:41 am)
My neighbors have three cars in their stable: a Camry, Accord and Mazda6 (all less than 5 years old). If that doesn't speak to how competitive this class is, when one family can't decide on a clear winner, I don't know what does.
 
I can't understand anyone that would limit their choices to one particular Brand. How boring can that be? I like to look at all options in a certain price point that suit my needs in a vehicle. I know there are people out there that are so closed minded that they may limit their choice to Honda only for instance. That's too bad for them or at least narrow minded IMHO.

#4194 of 12297 Re: 2011 [bobad] by ontop

Jun 13, 2006 (2:24 pm)

Replying to: bobad (Jun 13, 2006 5:35 am)
I would much prefer a big Buick, Caddy,etc for that purpose.
 
Ew - a Buick. Let me guess. You're over 75 years old. You'll fit right in at Hardees for breakfast.

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