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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Subaru Legacy, Saturn Aura, Sedan

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#3926 of 12297 Re: Toyota radio commercial [thegraduate] by mtnman1

Jun 07, 2006 (2:08 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 07, 2006 1:33 pm)
I've got 162,000 miles on my 1996 Accord now (clicked over yesterday. Same engine parts, only a new fan motor and brake master cylinder after 10.5 years. Not bad. I wonder how long I can keep this up (driving this old car so cheaply, that is).
 
I hear this quite often, but a friend and neighbor of mine bought their son a 1991 Accord back in 2001, so he would have a car while he was away at College. It had about 150,000 miles on it and the transmission was junk in 6 months. I think it's more about proper maintenance no matter what the vehicle brand is. Honda's will go bad just like the rest IMHO.

#3927 of 12297 Re: J.D. Power 90 day owners' survey [thegraduate] by alpha01

Jun 07, 2006 (2:47 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 07, 2006 1:27 pm)
The JD Power IQS is just very irksome to me because it has historically included ABSURD items in the assessment.... FWIW, I dont consider things like "clock in poor location" to be issues of QUALITY.....
 
~alpha

#3928 of 12297 Re: J.D. Power 90 day owners' survey [alpha01] by backy

Jun 07, 2006 (2:54 pm)

Replying to: alpha01 (Jun 07, 2006 2:47 pm)
The survey was redesigned for 2006 to focus on two areas: quality of assembly, and quality of design. So if the owner thinks the clock is in a poor location, that could be considered a design issue.

#3929 of 12297 Re: J.D. Power 90 day owners' survey [kingsalmon] by goodegg

Jun 07, 2006 (3:06 pm)

Replying to: kingsalmon (Jun 07, 2006 11:45 am)
Well now you only have to convince the 100 million Americans who will just shrug off the notion of buying a Hyundai, not just the 30-50 posters here on this forum.
 
I for one don't put Hyundai up there in Honda's quality realm.

#3930 of 12297 Re: J.D. Power 90 day owners' survey [backy] by alpha01

Jun 07, 2006 (3:09 pm)

Replying to: backy (Jun 07, 2006 2:54 pm)
Yea, but the name of the survey carries over, and for me, therein lies the problem. It's still the JD Power IQS not the JD Power Design and Initial Quality Survey.
 
~alpha

#3931 of 12297 Re: J.D. Power 90 day owners' survey [leadfoot6] by m1miata

Jun 07, 2006 (3:37 pm)

Replying to: goodegg (Jun 07, 2006 3:06 pm)
Well then, the option is to buy the four cylinder Accord for as much, if not more money than the V6 Sonata GLS. Not saying you are right or wrong, but that is what it boils down to. Oh yeah, and you get the same quality rating. Will the Accord last longer -- no one knows. Is the warranty at Hyundai longer? Everyone knows.
 
Guess one test drives both cars, does a look over a few hundred times to see if one looks better on the outside. The Accord may win on interior. Then there is the drive test between the four cylinder and the six to see which is preferable. Then there is the class testing done by some to be sure the yuppies approve of the car. May have to call the country club to ask if a Sonata or Azera is approved to be parked in the golfing club lot.
 
I will drive quite a few cars before deciding, the Hyundai included. Even considering trying a GM again, though there are some early warning signs of another meltdown in progress. Was thinking of a test drive of the Fusion too, but they need side air bags standard and to raise the crash test scores on frontal impact to compete with the big boys. You know, like Hyundai
-Loren

#3932 of 12297 Re: J.D. Power 90 day owners' survey [m1miata] by tinatina

Jun 07, 2006 (3:50 pm)

Replying to: m1miata (Jun 07, 2006 3:37 pm)
According to CR, the Accord was a top sedan with a red dot - so we kind of do know how it ranks. We don't know yet how the Sonata will rank (or the brand-new Camry for that matter) because I asked this same question awhile back on the dedicated Sonata thread. For my money, I would take a 2006 Accord 4 auto since its been out for awhile and its the best buy out their given the incentives on it. You also have to consider its resale.
 
For the JD Power baloney covering 90 days -those surveys are pretty useless since they cover a very limited time frame and placement of knobs, switches, clocks, etc. are personal preferences, not indicative of quality concerns.
 
They just opened up a new Hyundai dealership in my area - about 20 miles from my home. Glad though that there are competitors knipping at the Camry and Accord though because it will keep overall prices down.

#3933 of 12297 Re: J.D. Power 90 day owners' survey [thegraduate] by bhmr59

Jun 07, 2006 (4:12 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 07, 2006 1:27 pm)
As I understand it, J D Power does not make recommendations; it reports results of a survey, in this case over 63,000 respondents.
 
The sample is probably more accurate than a typical election poll.

#3934 of 12297 Re: J.D. Power 90 day owners' survey [kingsalmon] by bhmr59

Jun 07, 2006 (4:15 pm)

Replying to: kingsalmon (Jun 07, 2006 11:45 am)
kingsalmon,
 
How prophetic you were in your post!

#3935 of 12297 Re: J.D. Power 90 day owners' survey [alpha01] by ontop

Jun 07, 2006 (4:40 pm)

Replying to: alpha01 (Jun 07, 2006 3:09 pm)
I think an initial quality survey is lame. Who's gonna say 'yea, I bought a problem?' when they know its their baby and they're practically stuck with it?

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