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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Subaru Legacy, Saturn Aura, Sedan
#3328 of 12297 Re: What About the Mercury Milan? [tncarman]
May 16, 2006 (7:00 pm)
tncarman, the Milan is well respected in these forums. It may not sell much but it gets a lot of respect like the Subaru Legacy.
For model year 2007 it will come with most of the Sonata's standard safety equiptment. I don't believe the MSRP of the Milan and Sonata are that far apart though transaction prices for the Sonata are probably lower due to the high incentives on the Sonata while the Milan has had minimal fleet sales. The trade off there depends on how long you are goign to keep the car. The Milan's resale value should be significantly better. Dispite what might be said to the contrary, due to the high fleet sales, the lower transaction amount will not offset the lesser resale value completely.
#3329 of 12297 Re: What About the Mercury Milan? [driverdm]
May 16, 2006 (7:10 pm)
First, the Milan has had pretty high incentives also--subsidized leases and rebates. So prices on the I4s are getting pretty close to those of the Sonata, although the Sonata has the advantage still in standard safety equipment. V6 incentives are better on the Sonata. Second, the Milan is in fleets. Once the Taurus and Sable exit this fall, it will be interesting to see if Ford sells more Fulans to fleets or greatly restricts sales to that channel.
If you have any facts to back up your assertion that lower transaction amounts will not offest lesser resale values, I would like to see them. This has not been my personal experience.
#3330 of 12297 Re: What About the Mercury Milan? [backy]
May 16, 2006 (7:11 pm)
The starting Sonata GL MSRP is $18,495 while the Milan is $18,995 (both including destination) but has a power driver's seat and heated outside mirrors. When you figure in discounts, the Sonata price gap will increase but as aforementioned at the cost of resale value.
#3331 of 12297 Re: What About the Mercury Milan? [driverdm]
May 16, 2006 (7:13 pm)
The Sonata has heated mirrors also. Also ABS, side bags/curtains, and ESC. What is the price of the Milan with those options added (or is ESC still not available on the Milan)?
#3332 of 12297 Re: What About the Mercury Milan? [backy]
May 16, 2006 (7:27 pm)
I believe that it has been published that those safety features will be standard for model year 2007 and I don't believe there will be a significant pricing increase if there is an increase at all.
Good call, I missed that the base Sonata has heated mirrors as well. The interior of the Milan I like a lot more, just a personal opinion, especially if you get the two tone leather and mahogany wood package. Real nice.
#3333 of 12297 New Milan Info
May 16, 2006 (7:33 pm)
On the Ford Fusion/ Mercury Milan board it was posted today the following by my friend mschmai:
Major news for the 07 Fusion:
Safety and Security package become standard on every Fusion.
The SE Sport Package (wheels and 6 CD) becomes standard on SE 4 and 6
The SEL premium package (autolamp dash treatment) becomes standard on SEL 4 and 6.
And also in another recent post by ryguy1718:
I work at a ford dealer,
The ordering guide came out yesterday for the 07 fusion's.
Here are the Job #2 Changes,
All wheel drive
It seems like ford got the message
The Milan gets the same features as the Fusion so the safety features are there as well as nav and AWD which the competition doesn't really offer. It gives these two cars a good edge.
#3334 of 12297 Re: New Milan Info [driverdm]
May 16, 2006 (7:38 pm)
If the safety stuff can be added with little/no price increase that will be a big boost to the Fulan. But it looks like ESC will still not be available, or at least not standard. AWD should help boost sales in the snowbelt. Navi seems to be becoming a necessary option in this class... wonder when Chevy, Hyundai, Kia et. al. will ante up (in the U.S.)?
#3335 of 12297 Re: New Milan Info [backy]
May 16, 2006 (7:49 pm)
I think the demand for nav is interesting. Very few get it but it is almost like a feature that people like to know they have the option of. They look at the technology offered and assume a car is more premium by the offerings even though they don't get it.
The ESC isn't offered but the safety benefits of it may not be that great. I don't know, but it seems like safety is very close these days like reliability.
#3336 of 12297 Re: New Milan Info [driverdm]
May 16, 2006 (8:22 pm)
Yeah, I don't know how I have survived all these years without nav. Maps, and a good sense of direction, I guess.
I know some studies have been posted, if not here someplace in Town Hall, about the benefits of ESC in accident avoidance. I think the IIHS did some work on that. Anyway, when it comes to safety I'll take every advantage I can get. If ESC is readily available and not too pricey, I'll take it. Overall, car safety has improved a lot in the last few years; the IIHS has even delegated frontal crash tests to the automakers to concentrate on other stuff.
#3337 of 12297 Re: New Milan Info [backy]
May 16, 2006 (8:52 pm)
I like to be safe as much as the next guy. I just love performance and style a little more than the next guy. I wouldn't buy a Fusion because it does not come with manu-shift, but nothing in regards to the safety issue. I mean the new Merc has a lane change warning system and rear lights that blink wildly when the brakes are slammed on that they have proven through testing can decrease accidents. Will it sway my buying decision? No. As long as I can safely walk away, I'll be good in something that performs and looks like temptation itself.