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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Subaru Legacy, Saturn Aura, Sedan

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#2706 of 12297 Re: kdhspyder [thegraduate] by kwonc71

Apr 21, 2006 (5:11 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Apr 21, 2006 7:01 am)
I had 1993 & 1994 Accord LX for years.
Here are cars list I had between me and my wife:
1.Dodge Dynasty as my first car-used
2.Subaru Legacy-used
3.1993 Honda Accord LX 2Dr coupe-used
4.1994 Honda Accord LX 4Dr sedan-new
5.Chrysler Caravan-new
6.Kia Sephia-new
7.Kia Sedona-new
8.Acura MDX-used
9.2000 Hyundai Sonata-new
10.Now I own Kia 06 Sedona EX-new, 11. 2006 Sonata LX-new, 12. 1988 Acura Integra-got it free from my in-law.
 
Actually I have owned 12 cars, not 11
 
I have owned 4 Honda cars so far.
 
Anything else I can help you with?

#2707 of 12297 Re: Fleet sales [kdhspyder] by bobad

Apr 21, 2006 (6:28 pm)

Replying to: kdhspyder (Apr 21, 2006 1:04 pm)
I'm certain that the high level of Fleet sales is a way for Hyundai to ensure a consistent flow of units through the new plant.
 
There was no need to pad sales for the benefit of keeping the plant busy. The plant has been running flat out since the first Sonata's rolled out about a year ago.
 
Hyundai's plan is to put butts in the seats. They want to get all the exposure possible, because people that see and drive the car like the car. Many people that rent Sonatas end up owning Sonatas.

#2708 of 12297 Re: Fleet sales [bobad] by elroy5

Apr 21, 2006 (7:40 pm)

Replying to: bobad (Apr 21, 2006 6:28 pm)
A rental car is abused to the point where it looks and feels twice as old as it is. So a rental that is a year old feels like a car that is 2 to 3 years old. This gives people a bad impression of the car. I just had a rental (06 Chevy Impala) for a week and a half. It only had 15,000 miles on it, but it looked like it had been abused for 5 years and 50,000 miles. That's not how I would want people to get acquainted with my cars, if I'm a car company.

#2709 of 12297 Re: Fleet sales [elroy5] by kdhspyder

Apr 21, 2006 (8:01 pm)

Replying to: elroy5 (Apr 21, 2006 7:40 pm)
elroy5: Very right. This is GM's huge problem on it's midsized autos. Unless you can get a nearly new one your impression is 'Used car'.
 
Bobad: I wouldnt be surprised if the plant was running flat out but a good part of that is in fleet sales which are like a drug to a manufacturer since it's an easy volume sale but one with little or no margin. It's helping to drive GM to bankruptcy.

#2710 of 12297 Re: Anyoone considering a Pontiac G6? [exalteddragon1] by joe97

Apr 21, 2006 (8:18 pm)

Replying to: exalteddragon1 (Apr 21, 2006 11:44 am)
Sorry but way too many engine choices, delete a few please...3.9L - but only 227 horsies??
 
Need a interior makeover more than anything, in my opinion.

#2711 of 12297 Re: Fleet sales [elroy5] by backy

Apr 21, 2006 (8:27 pm)

Replying to: elroy5 (Apr 21, 2006 7:40 pm)
One of the reasons I bought my first Hyundai in 2000 was due to my experiences with rental cars. I drove a brand-new Focus, only a few hundred miles on it, and there were parts falling off inside and outside. I drove multiple Proteges and after only 10k miles there were squeaks and rattles, and the ride was much harsher than I like. Then I drove a '99 Elantra with 25k miles. Everything was solid and tight, ice-cold A/C (in Dallas, in summer), plenty of pep. So when the new, improved 2001 Elantra debuted I made sure I took a good look at it. I also drove a last-gen Sonata at about this time and thought it was a nice car--but bigger than I needed.
 
Driving rental cars also helped me decide I could never own a Corolla (very uncomfortable driving position for me), that the Camry (last gen) was OK but nothing special (I actually longed to get back to my Elantra after driving the Camry), that the Mazda6 was a lot of fun to drive and worth a good look, the Legacy was a nice car but too cramped in the rear for my needs, and the Malibu, Taurus, and G6 are fine cars--for renting and driving them for a couple of days, not to own!

#2712 of 12297 Re: kdhspyder [kwonc71] by thegraduate

Apr 21, 2006 (8:57 pm)

Replying to: kwonc71 (Apr 21, 2006 5:11 pm)
Yep, you havent driven the current Accord, which is what I was obviously talking about. You made no point here. A lot has happened in 12 years in Accord-land.

#2713 of 12297 Re: kdhspyder [thegraduate] by kwonc71

Apr 21, 2006 (9:13 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Apr 21, 2006 8:57 pm)
Law of physics is still same as 12 years ago and now.
 
If you believe one of those 40 MPG on Accord story, I don't want to discuss about this anymore.

#2714 of 12297 Re: kdhspyder [kwonc71] by thegraduate

Apr 21, 2006 (9:16 pm)

Replying to: kwonc71 (Apr 21, 2006 9:13 pm)
If you think a car that runs 3,000 RPM at 70MPH and no VTEC will get identical mileage than one that runs 2,300 RPM at 70MPH WITH Vtec, then you don't NEED to be discussing this.

#2715 of 12297 Re: kdhspyder [thegraduate] by kwonc71

Apr 21, 2006 (9:22 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Apr 21, 2006 9:16 pm)
My LX Sonata runs right at 2000 RPM 70 MPH, not more than 2100 RPM.
You should believe my Sonata's 45 MPG story then.
Is that fair?
 
BTW, if MPG is that important, I will get a scooter or take bicycle to work instead.
Driving 3400+ LB cars with 200+ HP and saving gas is non-sense to me anyway.

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