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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Subaru Legacy, Saturn Aura, Sedan


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Re: Sonata is now the Quietest [seniorjose] by credulus
Apr 02, 2006 (5:16 pm)

Replying to: seniorjose (Apr 02, 2006 3:47 pm)

Hey Joe,
 
Which planet Earth do you live on? Not selling them, that's an absolute lie . . . And, Daewoo engines, not quite sir. I think you're thinking of another Korean brand that supplies cars for GM. Remember the Pontiac LeMans, circa 1990? That was also a Daewoo.
 
Hyundais have never used Daewoo engines. Unfortunately, your posts no longer have any credibility, as you do nothing but bash Hyundai - or, anything else that isn't Honda or Toyota.
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Re: Sonata is now the Quietest [ctc1] by alpha01
Apr 02, 2006 (5:18 pm)

Replying to: ctc1 (Apr 02, 2006 4:47 pm)

I believe the Daewoo engines comment came from ignorance, of which there's been a sharp rise lately on the edmunds.com boards.
 
The rest of us know that Hyundai's latest engines are seriously competitive, and thats good enough...
 
~alpha
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Re: Sonata is now the Quietest [alpha01] by tinatina
Apr 02, 2006 (5:30 pm)

Replying to: alpha01 (Apr 02, 2006 5:18 pm)

Alpha,
 
Can you or maybe some else give me the pro/cons of the Hyundai GLS V-6, either in general or on the V-6 engine. Nice to see you on this thread - I just came here yesterday, and see that you also post/have posted here.
 
Credulus - It was not me who made any comment about the MacPherson Suspension became cheap/inadequate/inferior in any way. I heard that this suspension was less complicated than others in terms of design. I think the other poster equated this with the suspension being cheap/inferior/inadequate/etc.
 
  
 
Thanks,
 
Tina (
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Re: Sonata is now the Quietest [tinatina] by thegraduate
Apr 02, 2006 (5:36 pm)

Replying to: tinatina (Apr 02, 2006 5:30 pm)

A SHORT list of Pros/Cons from what I've heard from owners/testers:
 
Pros:
 
Features/Power/Car for the dollar
Nice, inoffensive styling
Many Stndrd Safety Features
Better Ride Than Accord, nearly as good as Camry
Roomy Inside
 
Cons:
 
Questionable Resale
Reliability improving, but still unproven
Inoffensive Styling low on the emotion meter (for me)
Handling not as good as Accord, Mazda6
Roomy interior still not at the quality of Honda/Toyota (9/10ths of the way there though!)
 
There are many more pros than cons with this car.
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Re: Sonata is now the Quietest [thegraduate] by backy
Apr 02, 2006 (7:21 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Apr 02, 2006 5:36 pm)

Specifically on the GLS V6 compared to other Sonata trim levels:
 
* "Interesting" cloth pattern--almost a terrycloth texture. Grippy though.
* 16" wheels/tires standard vs. 17" on the LX (17" available as an option). Ride is softer with the 16", but handling not quite as sharp. 17" alloys better looking IMO than the 16-inchers.
* Power seat not standard. Seat height adjuster is a lever type and tends to tip you forward as you raise the seat--can be disconcerting for some, sit before you buy (also try the optional power seat, it has independent height adjustments for fore and aft).
* Manual HVAC vs. automatic climate control (on LX).
* Steering wheel doesn't telescope as on the LX--check that all drivers have a comfortable reach to the wheel.
 
Note that if you find you need the power seat, by the time you add the package that includes it you are getting pretty close to the price of the LX. And there is more markup on the LX, so actual pricing may not be very far apart.
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Came back with Sedona EX by kwonc71
Apr 02, 2006 (7:27 pm)
It's little off topic, but it happened because of this forum. Thanks for Camry vs Sonata debate, I end up with EX 06 Sedona today. I happened to stop by Kia dealership to look at the o6 Sedona on my way back from the Toyota dealership that I had test drive. They agree with the price with MDX trade in. Took my wife back and got EX Sedona with 3.8L Azera engine, tire monitor, alloy wheels, power sliding doors, back door power lift,ECS with traction, ABS, remote entry, power middle window, mp3, trip computer, auto dimming, compass, shiftronics......... and so much more for $21,500. I could save another $2,000 if I still had 03 Sedona. That same engine Azera has moves this van fast. I can't imagine the power of Azera with less weight than Sedona and use same engine. Now the van has only 30 miles on it, already gets 20 MPG which is about 4 MPG better than turtle MDX had. Like the Sonata does in family sedan, I am happy to inform you that we have another cheap alternative for Oddiena.
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Re: Came back with Sedona EX [kwonc71] by thegraduate
Apr 02, 2006 (7:30 pm)

Replying to: kwonc71 (Apr 02, 2006 7:27 pm)

Good luck and congrats on your new van. I like the looks of yours MUCH better than the new revised Sienna, and the price can't be beat! The only flaw I can find with it is the fact that it drinks the good stuff. Premium. (yes, i realize it will take regular, at slightly diminished power, but why not make the engine run on regular to begin with; would it be that much more expensive to do? I'm asking seriously, not sarcastically.)
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Re: Came back with Sedona EX [thegraduate] by kwonc71
Apr 02, 2006 (7:40 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Apr 02, 2006 7:30 pm)

I did on MDX because it required, not on Sedona.
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Re: Sonata is now the Quietest [credulus] by meateater
Apr 02, 2006 (7:44 pm)

Replying to: credulus (Apr 02, 2006 5:16 pm)

Why can't he bash Hyundai if he wants? You don't have to listen to him. Not everybody wants a Hyundai. That's for damn sure. Yea I think the Sonata is a decent car, but they're not selling many around here too. So it's not a lie that they're not selling everywhere. Chill.
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Re: Came back with Sedona EX [kwonc71] by goodegg
Apr 02, 2006 (7:47 pm)

Replying to: kwonc71 (Apr 02, 2006 7:27 pm)

Wow - amazing stuff. A Korean buying a Korean vehicle.

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