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Sedans Midsize Sedans Comparison Thread 
12297 messages, Last post on Apr 13, 2007 at 11:55 AM
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Replying to: starryknight (Feb 17, 2007 11:07 am) They could have put a FWD drive Fusion and a AWD Fusion together and the people would have said they preferred the AWD version on the course just as the people preferred the AWD Fusion to FWD Accords and Camrys. I wonder how it would have gone if all the vehicles had been FWD?
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Feb 17, 2007 11:47 am) not only that but also 'handicapped' the other two cars with some nice speed limiting stability control systems not even offered on the Ford. There is absolutely no way that anything with that nasty DT is going to compare even close to favorably with those other 2 drivetrains. If you pick out 600 folks put them in front of an appropriately good salesman you will get the results you want - can you say OJ Simpson. 'The Fusion Challenge' should be regarded as the joke that it is and Ford should be ashamed of having to resort to such tactics.
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This discussion is about the cars. It's not about the shortcomings or difficulties of the manufacturers, it's not about currencies, it's not about geo-politics, it's not about sniping at each other over differences of opinions - it's not about anything except the actual cars. Once again here is the link to the Automotive News & Views board where conversations about the manufacturers are going on all over the place. A number of posts have been removed. If this discussion is going to remain viable, you folks have got to cooperate with me on this. I've been asking for your cooperation for a long time and I'm sorry to see I'm not really getting it. Work with me here please. This is a really good discussion when it's on track. None of us wants to lose it. |
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 17, 2007 2:00 pm) toyota has a commerical for their new truck that demonstrates it accelerating to 60 quicker than 4 competitors. i like it a lot better than the one that say 'the average truck has x, we have x+1'. that may or may not mean anything in the real world.
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Feb 17, 2007 4:08 pm) you don't seem to understand, laying out the course in a particular manner can (and did) negate any horsepower advantage (and probably also prevented the participants from experiencing that wonderful meat grinder that the Ford engine is) and a stability control system will do nothing but get in the way on an open track course like this. A good poker cheat can arrange to get 4 aces every time.
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Feb 17, 2007 6:22 pm) -Loren
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Replying to: m1miata (Feb 17, 2007 7:04 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Feb 17, 2007 7:13 pm) 
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