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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Subaru Legacy, Saturn Aura, Sedan

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#11106 of 12297 Re: Price Breakdown - Fusion, Camry, Accord [explorerx4] by thegraduate

Jan 27, 2007 (10:07 pm)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 27, 2007 4:58 pm)
a fusion se awd has an msrp of about 23,500.
 
I was comparing like-optioned cars in the post to which you replied. An SE Fusion is not even close to an EX-V6 Accord in terms of equipment. Nor is a standard-equipment SEL Fusion. You must add options to match it, which I did.
 
An SE-V6 Accord with VSA has an MSRP of $23,550. The Fusion AWD starts at over $24,000 according to Ford's website.
 
I think what one of our dear members (not necessarily you, explorerx4) forgets is that someone's real-world price in the south is not always the same in the Northwest, Northeast, etc...
 
I remember when the boards were full of $24k EX-V6 Accord at last year's 2006 clearance, and he swore nobody could go cheaper than $25,888. Where he/she lived, that may have been true. For many of us, it simply wasn't.

#11107 of 12297 Re: Lower Sonata Sales [thegraduate] by explorerx4

Jan 27, 2007 (10:10 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 27, 2007 9:59 pm)
grad, the 'i was born a poor ***** child' (credits to steve martin) routine isn't going to work.
you are in college, you work part time, and you have 2 cars. it is not going to add up for most people.
you could save a lot more than $25 a month if you could find a way to drive less than 25k per year.
just some friendly advice from a guy who got the senior citizen discount at the grocery store last week.

#11108 of 12297 Re: Price Breakdown - Fusion, Camry, Accord [thegraduate] by explorerx4

Jan 27, 2007 (10:11 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 27, 2007 10:07 pm)
you are probably right, i put in my local zip code.

#11109 of 12297 Re: Lower Sonata Sales [explorerx4] by thegraduate

Jan 27, 2007 (10:15 pm)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 27, 2007 10:10 pm)
Ah, someone doesn't know how I got the cars (I have explained it before since it is bizarre that a 19 year old has what my parents call the "fleet", but its been awhile)
 
The 1996, i got from my grandmother when it had 120k in 2002.
 
The new car I got by my parents not having to pay for my college education (I got a scholarship). I didn't pay for the vehicles themselves. My parents decided to keep the old one since its trade-in would be only a few thousand dollars, and wanted to use it as out "beater" car, although it is in great shape. I don't have the kind of money to throw around on cars, but I walked into a "honkin" schoarship - instead, i save a lot of what I make for a down payment on a home. Now, my parents are moving to OKC, OK and don't want to drive the 1996 across the country, so they are leaving the 1996 with me, as well as my 2006.
 
I know, it doesn't add up until you get the full story, but you can thank good ACT scores and generous Financial Aid Staff at UAB for my 2006 Accord. Actually, I should thank them!
 
Oh, and the 25,000 miles a year should be less this year. I stopped dating my (now ex-) girlfriend who lives 27 miles from my house. I do still commute 14 miles one-way to school each day, but its cheaper than living on campus.

#11110 of 12297 Re: Price Breakdown - Fusion, Camry, Accord [scape2] by thegraduate

Jan 27, 2007 (10:22 pm)

Replying to: scape2 (Jan 27, 2007 9:42 am)
I also live in LA and drove 3 hrs to buy a car from Holmes. The fees were exactly as stated, price was under invoice,and whole process took less than an hour. Three different dealers in my area were all about 1500.00 more and refused to deal. I thought it was worth the drive.
I bought an EX-L V6 for 24,200.00 + TT&L. The title and license fees were 190.00
 
These are as real-world as I can get without surveying buyers at the actual dealership. Guess you were right - $25.5k for an Accord isn't real-world. Guess it's more like $24.5k. For the Fusion, it's looking to be around $23k.
 
For me, the Accord's interior alone looks worth the price difference because it doesn't have the blocky parts-bin look. With blocks like that in the interior, I just get the feeling that the climate controls and stereo are made to fit several different cars, not necessarily to be ergonomically friendly or stylish.
 

#11111 of 12297 Re: Lower Sonata Sales [thegraduate] by explorerx4

Jan 27, 2007 (10:56 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 27, 2007 10:15 pm)
some of that is more that i need to know. i told my high school senior that i would buy them a car, if they went to uconn, but no deal. in the future, just think about finding a place to live near where you work. it saves a lot of commuting time and probably expenses too. that way you can afford the next gen NSX.

#11112 of 12297 Re: Lower Sonata Sales [explorerx4] by thegraduate

Jan 27, 2007 (10:58 pm)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 27, 2007 10:56 pm)
No telling where I'll end up working...but I'll definitely keep a short commute in mind. Sorry if that's heavy on the details.

#11113 of 12297 Re: Lower Sonata Sales [thegraduate] by explorerx4

Jan 27, 2007 (11:22 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 27, 2007 10:58 pm)
don't go to work in san diego. your job would by 'high in the low 70's, partly cloudy'.

#11114 of 12297 Re: Lower Sonata Sales [explorerx4] by thegraduate

Jan 27, 2007 (11:32 pm)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 27, 2007 11:22 pm)
haha... well, Ive actually taken more to the newswriting part of broadcasting, so it may be reporting out in that weather instead of forecasting!

#11115 of 12297 Re: um.... [andres3] by exshoman

Jan 28, 2007 (8:43 am)

Replying to: andres3 (Jan 27, 2007 7:14 pm)
andres3 wrote: Completely wrong... I'd wager there isn't a Dodge car out there (don't count that trucks) that can reach 100K miles without seriously dipping into thousands and thousands of dollars in repairs.
 
How much do you want to wager? Other than normal maintenance (oil changes, tune up 100k, brake pads), I haven't put a since cent into my 2000 Chrysler 300M. True, it's not a Dodge, but I'm guessing that you'd lump these two together.
 
Still going strong at 115k. It's a great looking, powerful, fully optioned, comfortable car that handles like it's on rails. It gets pretty decent gas mileage for a large car. I average 24 in my commute, which is 50% winding, hilly, roads, 50% often congested highway. Purely highway driving can get 28-30.
 
We also have a 2006 Accord EX-L (was supposed to be my wife's car), and it is a nice vehicle, but given a choice we still prefer to drive the 7 year old 300M.

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